2014-03-24T00:24:17 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T00:35:45 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T00:46:13 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-24T00:59:30 *** monstr has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T01:10:46 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T01:38:40 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T01:41:27 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T01:41:32 good morning 2014-03-24T02:18:18 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-24T02:31:40 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T02:35:08 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T04:35:28 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T04:42:46 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-24T05:31:57 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2014-03-24T06:28:36 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T06:50:02 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T07:01:29 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-24T07:16:13 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T07:31:28 gedare :hi 2014-03-24T07:32:44 hi vipulnayyar 2014-03-24T07:35:00 gedare :Actually, I emailed Joel this saturday but haven't heard from him since. Maybe he's busy. Although Saturday was the deadline but since I've informed the Fedora admin, I can be a few days late. 2014-03-24T07:35:11 he's traveling and usually non-responsive on the weekends. 2014-03-24T07:35:26 Also, they need the recommendation from any member, not just the admin.. :-) 2014-03-24T07:35:40 yes, but he has the most experience with you so he is best to write you a letter 2014-03-24T07:35:56 ask me tomorrow if he has not responded 2014-03-24T07:36:22 hi shelf looks like you did not submit any proposal to GSOC this year.. decide against it? 2014-03-24T07:36:30 Ok, sure. 2014-03-24T07:40:45 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-24T08:01:09 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T08:01:18 *** shammi_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T09:41:05 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T09:46:00 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2014-03-24T09:46:56 *** anth_x has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2014-03-24T10:14:06 *** monstr has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2014-03-24T10:19:10 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-24T10:20:08 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2014-03-24T10:34:59 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T10:36:08 *** anth_x has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T10:50:34 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T10:51:03 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T10:51:31 *** paulo has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-24T10:51:53 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-24T11:01:25 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-24T11:02:24 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T11:02:38 *** shammi_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T12:19:16 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T12:21:56 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2014-03-24T12:42:40 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T13:33:12 *** edwardk_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T13:35:23 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-24T13:43:37 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-24T13:45:11 *** cdesai has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-24T14:26:51 *** JustJanek has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T14:43:22 *** edwardk_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-24T14:50:32 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T15:27:48 *** ealfie0x1d has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T15:54:09 *** ealfie0x1d has left #rtems 2014-03-24T16:39:33 gedare, signed up as a mentor 2014-03-24T16:41:30 was anyone in the room (and looking at this window) involved in RTEMS' 2013 GSoC effort? 2014-03-24T16:41:50 (sorry for re-asking; i'm trying to do a sort of reference check, and i'm not sure who the proper party is) 2014-03-24T16:53:32 *** anth_x has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2014-03-24T16:53:34 *** zoso has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-24T17:06:31 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-24T17:29:13 *** JustJanek has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-24T17:32:33 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T17:41:30 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T17:44:48 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T18:06:44 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2014-03-24T18:22:24 thanks kiwichris. 2014-03-24T19:17:23 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-24T19:21:30 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T19:26:08 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-24T19:28:10 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T19:50:57 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2014-03-24T20:16:11 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-24T20:23:43 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-24T20:25:53 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-24T20:52:00 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T00:27:49 sebhub, around ? 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2014-03-25T09:46:45 yeah 2014-03-25T09:46:52 how can i help? 2014-03-25T09:47:20 PM okay? 2014-03-25T09:47:22 yes 2014-03-25T10:00:39 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-25T10:15:38 *** monstr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-25T10:21:55 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-25T10:25:17 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2014-03-25T10:36:13 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-25T10:44:48 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T10:50:16 sebhub: is there a difference between a Life cycle change and a thread State transition? 2014-03-25T10:51:13 i'm working my way up to patch 14 ;) 2014-03-25T11:00:33 the thread life is determined by creation, restart and delete 2014-03-25T11:00:50 the thread state is determined by the blocking operations 2014-03-25T11:00:53 ok 2014-03-25T11:01:31 you can for example suspend a deleted thread or block in the thread termination handler (e.g. closing a file, sync and wait for IO completion) 2014-03-25T11:08:56 thanks. i will try to review the main patch after my lunch. 2014-03-25T11:15:17 thanks, cu 2014-03-25T11:16:29 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-25T11:18:06 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T11:24:54 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T11:25:58 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-25T11:28:08 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-25T11:44:03 *** vipulnayyar has left #rtems ("Leaving") 2014-03-25T11:57:40 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T12:32:29 *** monstr has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T13:00:12 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T13:38:58 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-25T13:43:59 *** monstr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-25T13:48:23 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-25T14:05:10 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T14:14:47 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T14:43:03 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T15:31:08 *** anth_x has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2014-03-25T15:55:31 *** shammi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-25T16:11:58 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-25T17:14:43 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T17:27:15 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-25T17:31:08 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-25T17:39:20 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T17:54:21 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-25T18:08:50 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T18:53:59 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T19:02:35 *** anth_x has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T19:03:31 *** anth_x has left #rtems 2014-03-25T20:08:59 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-25T21:24:06 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-25T21:36:32 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T21:47:55 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-25T22:00:20 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-25T23:39:13 *** zoso has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-26T00:42:59 *** monstr has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T02:02:00 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T02:02:53 good morning 2014-03-26T02:03:08 sebhub, moring 2014-03-26T02:03:16 I hear Joel is back in town ? 2014-03-26T02:03:26 yes, he gives a training 2014-03-26T02:04:48 Great 2014-03-26T02:04:58 Do use psim at all ? 2014-03-26T02:05:30 yes, several times a day to run the test suite 2014-03-26T02:05:52 do you use psim as in powerpc-rtems4.11-run or via gdb ? 2014-03-26T02:06:03 via the psim script 2014-03-26T02:06:12 ah ok so via gdb 2014-03-26T02:06:46 for development I use the realview_pbx_a9_qemu 2014-03-26T02:06:51 can you please try a test of hello.exe using powerpc-rtems4.11-run ? You will need the device-tree which I have in a git repo 2014-03-26T02:07:16 I am seeing a non-zero exit code which is a pain 2014-03-26T02:07:54 I have psim with gdb running with the rtems-test command 2014-03-26T02:08:29 were can I get the device tree? 2014-03-26T02:09:52 http://git.rtems.org/rtems-tools/tree/tester/rtems/testing/bsps/psim-device-tree 2014-03-26T02:10:55 I tested IBM's powerpc back port patch for the 4.8-branch; the rsb as it as a snapshot build if you are interested 2014-03-26T02:11:28 powerpc-rtems4.11-run -o psim-device-tree ./powerpc-rtems4.11/c/psim/testsuites/samples/hello/hello.exe 2014-03-26T02:11:29 core: attempt to attach unknown device psim-device-tree 2014-03-26T02:11:49 -f flag ? 2014-03-26T02:12:04 I did the same thing :) 2014-03-26T02:12:19 sh@linux-7i4a:/scratch/git-rtems-testing/rtems/build-powerpc-psim-rtems (next) > powerpc-rtems4.11-run -f psim-device-tree ./powerpc-rtems4.11/c/psim/testsuites/samples/hello/hello.exe 2014-03-26T02:12:20 OpenPIC Version 1.2 (2 CPUs and 17 IRQ sources) at 0x0C130000 2014-03-26T02:12:22 OpenPIC Vendor 0 (Unknown), Device 0 (Unknown), Stepping 0 2014-03-26T02:12:23 Overriding NumSources (17) from configuration with 16 2014-03-26T02:12:25 OpenPIC timer frequency is 1 Hz 2014-03-26T02:12:26 2014-03-26T02:12:28 2014-03-26T02:12:29 *** BEGIN OF TEST HELLO WORLD *** 2014-03-26T02:12:31 Hello World 2014-03-26T02:12:32 *** END OF TEST HELLO WORLD *** 2014-03-26T02:12:34 2014-03-26T02:12:35 2014-03-26T02:12:37 121 2014-03-26T02:12:38 54 2014-03-26T02:12:40 3538 2014-03-26T02:12:41 0 2014-03-26T02:12:43 0 2014-03-26T02:12:44 0 2014-03-26T02:12:46 0 2014-03-26T02:12:47 2014-03-26T02:12:49 2014-03-26T02:12:50 sh@linux-7i4a:/scratch/git-rtems-testing/rtems/build-powerpc-psim-rtems (next) > echo $? 2014-03-26T02:12:52 5 2014-03-26T02:13:21 Hmm 5 is what I get. Looks like I need to add exit code handling for this simulator 2014-03-26T02:14:57 The rtems-test command supports ... 2014-03-26T02:14:58 RTEMS Testing - Tester, v0.2.0 2014-03-26T02:14:58 BSP List: 2014-03-26T02:14:58 mcf5235 2014-03-26T02:14:58 psim-run 2014-03-26T02:14:58 psim 2014-03-26T02:14:59 realview_pbx_a9_qemu 2014-03-26T02:14:59 sis-run 2014-03-26T02:15:00 sis 2014-03-26T02:15:00 xilinx_zynq_a9_qemu 2014-03-26T02:15:00 xilinx_zynq_a9_qemu_smp 2014-03-26T02:15:01 xilinx_zynq_zc706 2014-03-26T02:15:13 What are you missing for your testing needs ? 2014-03-26T02:15:34 this covers all simulator bsps I use 2014-03-26T02:15:40 Great 2014-03-26T02:15:48 I need to add the mips one for Joel 2014-03-26T02:15:52 i tried your rtems-test also with a real sparc evaluation board 2014-03-26T02:16:13 unfortunately the debug monitor was to unstable 2014-03-26T02:16:31 On the board ? 2014-03-26T02:16:35 yes 2014-03-26T02:16:46 What connection ? 2014-03-26T02:16:51 you can use this debug monitor (GRMON) to load and run programs 2014-03-26T02:16:55 usb 2014-03-26T02:16:56 serial ? 2014-03-26T02:17:01 ah ok usb 2014-03-26T02:17:18 do they provide both ends or just the target side ? 2014-03-26T02:17:24 the problem is not the connection, the debug monitor itself crashes from time to time 2014-03-26T02:17:57 you can access the target via a gdb interface or a tcl client 2014-03-26T02:18:01 I will chat to someone and let them know. A hope of mine is getting the tool makers to also test with it. 2014-03-26T02:18:10 Yes and use that to test with 2014-03-26T02:18:30 did you try gdb ? 2014-03-26T02:18:48 i tried both, i have to contact the support to get this fixed 2014-03-26T02:19:17 Please do and let them know they can contact me directly to help them. 2014-03-26T02:19:36 Please feel free to commit the support to the tools repo 2014-03-26T02:20:00 yes, its on my list ;-) 2014-03-26T02:20:22 hehe I understand; off for the night ... tennis double comp soon 2014-03-26T02:20:44 Will you drop by the class at all ? 2014-03-26T02:23:07 no, but thomas will be there 2014-03-26T02:23:29 i am quite busy with private things this week 2014-03-26T02:24:03 if you have time, please review the thread restart/delete patches 2014-03-26T02:25:12 Please pass a big hi to Ben who I think is present. 2014-03-26T02:25:21 I will review the patches tomorrow. 2014-03-26T02:25:30 thanks 2014-03-26T02:25:53 Also please check the bug I raised on libstdc++. It looks like it will be fixed port 4.9 2014-03-26T02:26:04 port -> post 2014-03-26T02:26:31 Bug libstdc++/60645 ? 2014-03-26T02:26:54 They have acknowledged a general issue which is great so our wrapper is needed until then 2014-03-26T02:26:55 yes 2014-03-26T02:27:49 I am concerned even with our wrapper errors maybe be hidden 2014-03-26T02:28:00 I am off; cya 2014-03-26T02:28:09 cu 2014-03-26T02:36:10 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T02:47:08 *** shammi_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T02:48:24 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-26T03:04:21 *** shammi_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-26T04:43:15 *** shammi_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T05:25:13 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T06:24:44 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2014-03-26T07:32:54 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-26T08:43:09 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T08:43:43 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-26T08:44:24 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T09:28:02 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T09:28:12 *** vipulnayyar has left #rtems 2014-03-26T10:17:58 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-26T10:20:19 *** shammi_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-26T10:57:03 *** shammi_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T10:57:08 *** shammi_ is now known as shammi 2014-03-26T11:02:44 *** noselasd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-26T11:02:51 *** noselasd has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T11:17:09 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-26T11:27:30 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-26T12:07:41 *** monstr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-26T12:19:57 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T12:28:14 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T12:58:56 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T13:34:57 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-26T13:37:16 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-26T13:37:53 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T13:39:02 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T14:58:43 *** shammi has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-26T15:32:03 * gedare sighs 2014-03-26T15:32:18 if ( first == (void*)&spill_pq->head ) { 2014-03-26T15:32:18 first == NULL; 2014-03-26T15:32:18 } 2014-03-26T15:32:29 that is a sad bug to be stuck on. 2014-03-26T15:33:06 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-26T15:34:12 and now my Makefile includes -Wall. 2014-03-26T15:36:18 -Wextra is a good idea to add to your Makefile 2014-03-26T15:37:02 yikes. shows I keep around a lot of unused variables :) 2014-03-26T15:37:15 parameters, even. 2014-03-26T15:40:19 unused variable ‘unused’ 2014-03-26T15:40:45 parameters unused may haven't any name but if you don't using parameters may be change the prototype of your fonction to remove them clompletely. if the functions can't be change don't name the parameters that you don't want to use it avoid the warning 2014-03-26T15:41:18 yeah, i think i can do.. 2014-03-26T15:41:21 (void) parameter; 2014-03-26T15:41:22 completely* 2014-03-26T15:41:54 i use some template-like programming to generate a bunch of functions that have similar signatures, but not all use the same parameters exactly. 2014-03-26T15:59:19 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-26T18:02:00 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-26T18:27:07 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T18:30:58 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T20:05:35 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2014-03-26T20:12:29 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T20:12:54 *** cdesai has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2014-03-26T20:49:24 *** cdesai has joined #rtems 2014-03-26T23:10:10 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-26T23:12:59 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-27T00:56:42 *** monstr has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T02:02:10 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T03:23:52 *** monstr has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-27T03:28:50 *** monstr_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T04:45:31 *** monstr_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-27T04:45:52 *** 1JTAAWTEK <1JTAAWTEK!~monstr@nat-63.starnet.cz> has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T07:08:22 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T08:17:51 *** narendraj9 has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T08:18:24 *** narendraj9 has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T08:42:34 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T09:42:03 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-27T09:44:23 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T10:21:14 *** narendraj9 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2014-03-27T10:28:05 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-27T11:10:43 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T11:15:03 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-27T11:22:15 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T11:22:20 *** vipulnayyar has left #rtems 2014-03-27T11:22:58 *** narendraj9 has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T11:23:51 *** narendraj9 has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T11:44:55 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T12:22:33 *** 1JTAAWTEK <1JTAAWTEK!~monstr@nat-63.starnet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-27T12:50:20 *** narendraj9 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2014-03-27T13:39:00 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-27T13:50:46 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T16:03:01 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-27T16:30:16 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2014-03-27T17:27:08 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T17:30:10 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T18:11:24 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-27T18:12:56 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T18:19:16 *** kiwichri_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T18:19:54 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-27T19:36:23 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T19:49:51 hi kiwichri_ 2014-03-27T20:00:28 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-27T20:02:55 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-27T20:08:54 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T20:14:09 gedare, hi 2014-03-27T20:51:55 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-27T23:12:58 *** zoso has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-27T23:36:35 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T00:52:59 *** kiwichri_ has quit IRC () 2014-03-28T01:36:34 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-28T01:52:24 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T01:56:29 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T02:19:06 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-28T02:19:32 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T02:43:39 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T03:29:04 *** pwwka has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T03:29:55 hi, i noticed there's some rtems training in munich. is there a related (open) socializing event? 2014-03-28T03:44:10 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-28T04:30:39 pwwka: sorry, this event was yesterday 2014-03-28T05:00:35 *** Joff has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T05:31:43 Hello, I am analyzing the way to make an application using the MMU wih RTEMS. For now, I have seen in code that the actual (rtems4.10) MMU implementation for ARM or PPC can use initialize MMU but doesn't use context switch (Am I right ?). Did RTEMS core support for MMU will be added in rtems 4.11 to allow MMU context switching between task ? Is user/kernel protection spaces are planned for RTEMS ? 2014-03-28T05:41:57 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T07:00:29 sebhub: a day late, eh? bummer, maybe next time 2014-03-28T07:23:00 a general support for virtual memory is not planned for RTEMS 2014-03-28T07:26:47 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T09:03:34 Do you know what features of the MMU are fully exploited by the application which run on RTEMS BSPs that support MMU ? 2014-03-28T09:04:12 some systems protect code from read/write, read-only data from execute/write and read-write data from execute 2014-03-28T09:04:43 it is also possible to protect the thread stacks from each other with a bit of extra work 2014-03-28T09:05:07 everything else makes no sense, if you need processes, then use Linux for example 2014-03-28T09:11:16 The "bit of extra work" i makin 2014-03-28T09:11:20 sorry 2014-03-28T09:12:25 Is the "bit of extra work" making the MMU switch is page context when RTEMS Dispach between threads ? 2014-03-28T09:17:52 yes, we did this for an Altera Nios 2 BSP 2014-03-28T09:27:55 *** noselasd has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-28T09:27:58 Thank you very much for your help ! 2014-03-28T09:28:46 the primary target for RTEMS is a statically initialized envirnoment with no processes and virtual memory 2014-03-28T09:32:44 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-28T09:36:14 can you be more specific about "statically initialized"? means all code is loaded at boottime, no malloc, or what? 2014-03-28T09:37:03 statically initialized MMU 2014-03-28T09:37:10 sry, have to leave now 2014-03-28T09:37:46 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-28T09:39:25 ah 2014-03-28T10:14:06 generally, all code is loaded at boot 2014-03-28T10:14:21 but there is some support for dynamic modules with an external project called the rtems run-time loader 2014-03-28T10:14:33 you can still use malloc 2014-03-28T10:22:30 how often is there a need to load modules at runtime? 2014-03-28T10:23:03 (been considering ripping out the runtime linker + loader from my project) 2014-03-28T10:26:42 it depends, i think most people who use RTL want it for doing either boot-time loading or run time patching.. 2014-03-28T10:27:00 i mean, they can load modules after the system is up if they have RTL 2014-03-28T10:28:46 hmm, yea, i guess you need at least the same linker support if you want even boottime loading 2014-03-28T10:29:39 yes. there have been solutions done by users also that provide hacked boottime loading by reserving blocks of the memory space at fixed addresses 2014-03-28T10:30:06 if your module is smaller than the block, you can provide the start of the block as the module entry point 2014-03-28T10:30:21 this is less general than what RTL provides but it works for some... 2014-03-28T10:32:15 oh and prelinking to assume a fixed address and wrapping calls in some "if (loaded) call()" ? 2014-03-28T10:32:22 why not just provide multiple images ?) 2014-03-28T10:33:58 i haven't spent much time thinking about it, i just know that is one way it has been done 2014-03-28T10:34:16 but the better way is http://wiki.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/Dynamic_Object_File_Loading 2014-03-28T10:34:32 there also exists CEXP which works for some older RTEMS versions. 2014-03-28T10:35:45 i see you are from finland? 2014-03-28T10:36:34 yes, but currently in Munich, which explains my earlier question 2014-03-28T10:37:01 i wasn't online for that question. i'm american of finnish descent, half-finn 2014-03-28T10:37:49 cool 2014-03-28T10:38:11 then i expect you to be perfectly fluent in finnish ;) 2014-03-28T10:38:14 yeah, i'd like to go there some day. ha 2014-03-28T10:38:17 i started to learn last year... 2014-03-28T10:38:27 puhumme vain vahan suomi 2014-03-28T10:38:51 and not much more than that ;) 2014-03-28T10:38:57 yea, conjugating sucks ... ;) 2014-03-28T11:16:42 *** Joff has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2014-03-28T11:37:12 *** noselasd has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T11:43:01 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T12:34:03 *** edwardk_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-28T12:37:57 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2014-03-28T12:55:03 *** zoso has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2014-03-28T13:05:36 *** gigetoo