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my linux box or use a VM 2014-03-18T19:03:44 i think the VM comes with some pre-configured environment, but on the other side VMs would generally not have enough processing power, hence I'm little confused about the development environment 2014-03-18T19:04:40 Is it straight forward to setup rtems development environment on GNU/Linux running on x86_64 machine 2014-03-18T19:38:26 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-18T19:38:50 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-18T19:43:15 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-18T19:49:22 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-18T19:53:50 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-18T20:02:12 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-18T20:05:19 *** kiwichri_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-18T20:09:00 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2014-03-18T20:23:39 *** kmehta has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-18T20:33:26 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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2014-03-19T19:06:29 but i think we can encourage the students doing "ports" to work some on RSB and rtems-test 2014-03-19T19:06:45 Great. 2014-03-19T19:06:47 if we accept any of those projects. ;) 2014-03-19T19:07:35 I will take a look today and see what the proposals are. The local telco cut the DSL wires on Monday so was distracted again 2014-03-19T19:07:45 also, if the LWIP one goes forward, it should probably be supported by RSB somehow. 2014-03-19T19:07:57 ok.. might as well wait til they are "final" on friday 2014-03-19T19:08:29 unless you have spare time, students do appreciate feedback, sometimes. 2014-03-19T19:08:38 Hmm interesting idea. I have added a way to check for various packages and build them using pkgconfig. The RSB contains its own version that is very close to the full C version 2014-03-19T19:09:11 ok. we can chat more later. i hope to triage the projects next week to get initial picks done. 2014-03-19T19:09:23 For example http://git.rtems.org/rtems-source-builder/tree/bare/config/devel/glib-2.39.3-1.cfg 2014-03-19T19:09:35 see the %ifn %(check ... 2014-03-19T19:09:56 hm 2014-03-19T19:09:59 it checks for a specific version of glib installed and or it builds it 2014-03-19T19:10:15 ok 2014-03-19T19:10:38 The remaining piece is using --cflags etc to run the build 2014-03-19T19:11:06 This means we use pkgconfig format files for 3rd party library support 2014-03-19T19:11:48 good 2014-03-19T19:11:49 The key issue with combining this with the BSP flags to make a BSP specific build that matches the BSP's ABI 2014-03-19T19:12:07 eg hard vs soft float etc 2014-03-19T19:12:20 yeah 2014-03-19T19:12:41 i've seen the hacks employed for getting those flags in rtems_waf 2014-03-19T19:14:40 That is using pkgconfig files for the BSP. 2014-03-19T19:15:06 These files however are not 100% complete due to hacks used in some BSPs 2014-03-19T19:15:22 anywho, i have to go. check your PM i left you one or two 2014-03-19T19:15:41 The RSB pkgconfig is much much better that the rtems_waf one and maybe that one should be updated to the RSB one 2014-03-19T19:19:05 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T19:19:53 I've come across rtems very recently while looking for some embedded system related work 2014-03-19T19:20:09 and i'm trying to run my first hello world program 2014-03-19T19:20:16 i have installed the Virtual Machine 2014-03-19T19:20:17 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T19:20:44 and following the steps mentioned here: http://www.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/Virtual_Machines_for_RTEMS_Development 2014-03-19T19:26:59 however when trying to invoke 'make' from the /home/rtems/rtems-4.11-work/b-sis directory, gives me build errors 2014-03-19T19:27:37 before invoking make, i had invoke ../rtems/configure --target=sparc-rtems4.11 --enable-rtemsbsp=sis --enable-tests=samples --disable-posix 2014-03-19T19:32:06 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-19T19:57:29 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T19:58:25 *** kmehta has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-19T20:12:09 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-19T20:40:18 hi km 2014-03-19T20:40:27 oh, not here. 2014-03-19T20:40:54 we need to update all that getting started stuff. 2014-03-19T20:43:52 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T20:50:20 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-19T22:38:20 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-19T22:43:04 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T22:46:24 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T23:12:01 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-19T23:12:23 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T23:14:20 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-19T23:14:24 *** kiwichri_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T23:30:48 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-19T23:30:52 *** kiwichri_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-19T23:34:28 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-20T00:05:11 *** zoso has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T02:03:39 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T02:04:23 good morning 2014-03-20T02:36:49 *** Sched has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2014-03-20T05:14:57 *** mkhoory has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-20T05:54:21 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T07:47:44 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T07:48:00 *** paulo has left #rtems 2014-03-20T07:50:53 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T08:13:33 *** Sched has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2014-03-20T08:14:07 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T08:15:50 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-20T08:21:46 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T09:10:01 hi 2014-03-20T10:02:55 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-20T10:54:50 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T10:54:52 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-20T11:12:50 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T11:18:34 *** vipulnayyar has left #rtems ("Leaving") 2014-03-20T12:12:06 *** zoso has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-20T13:05:48 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T13:05:48 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T13:05:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2014-03-20T13:06:16 did anybody see about 35 patches from me on rtems-devel? 2014-03-20T13:26:14 when is the gsoc student proposal deadline? 2014-03-20T13:26:46 wow it's tomorrow? 2014-03-20T13:28:04 i'm surprised nobody has applied for testing 2014-03-20T13:36:04 students have avoided multiple projects 2014-03-20T13:44:41 DrJoel: yes patches. 2014-03-20T13:45:23 verm__: smaller student pool this year, and more interest in ports or core code 2014-03-20T13:46:44 gedare: It took three tries. Apparently I had to send envelope-sender on the command line. Jeff is looking to see if that can be set via gitconfig 2014-03-20T13:46:53 ah. 2014-03-20T13:47:07 the smaller pool is actually good because we appear to have fewer mentors due to personal issues. 2014-03-20T13:47:18 this much code is easier to review as one attached patch especially since they were all related 2014-03-20T13:47:26 yes 2014-03-20T13:47:51 For the rtems_bsp_delay(), I really like each BSP to be a single commit. The doc may have been over the top. :) 2014-03-20T13:48:12 rtems_bsp_delay is almost gone. The PowerPC and x86 are more complicated though 2014-03-20T13:49:28 The 25 BSP patches are tiny individually 2014-03-20T13:54:43 ok 2014-03-20T13:54:50 gedare: smaller student pool? you mean in general? 2014-03-20T13:54:59 for RTEMS. I don't know about the rest 2014-03-20T13:55:03 ah 2014-03-20T13:55:23 6 proposals right now.. and i expect to get one more 2014-03-20T13:55:33 that's less than half the last couple years. 2014-03-20T13:55:49 well there's usually a mad rush near the end 2014-03-20T13:55:58 so we'll see what happens tomorrow 2014-03-20T13:56:08 true, but we usually hear something by now. 2014-03-20T13:56:56 anyway the smaller pool is fine with me, I was planning to shrink our accepted size anyway due to lack of mentors 2014-03-20T13:57:58 we accepted 8 last year and i think it was a few too many for our mentors 2014-03-20T13:58:35 ah 2014-03-20T13:59:53 Did you see I finally figured out the v850 tools build failure? It wasn't in newlib at all. libgcc had a minor change to config.host and it lost our newlib Include path 2014-03-20T14:00:11 One line patch.. add 15 characters .. lol 2014-03-20T14:00:24 yeah i saw that 2014-03-20T14:00:29 heh 2014-03-20T14:00:30 figures 2014-03-20T14:01:19 We were mucking with types.h, etc. and assumed we broke something complicated 2014-03-20T14:01:38 already committed upstream to gcc. Need to try to merge it into RSB 2014-03-20T14:06:03 DrJoel: kiwichris added doco recently about patch mgmt with rsb: http://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/chrisj/source-builder/source-builder.html#_patches 2014-03-20T14:07:56 OK.. guess I need to read.. sigh 2014-03-20T14:08:08 And take Justin to the doctor :( 2014-03-20T14:09:21 :/ 2014-03-20T14:10:36 smething in one of his ear canals is clearly swollen and hurting his hearing 2014-03-20T14:10:54 rough 2014-03-20T14:11:16 Could be nothing according to web.. or it could be something.. parenting.. who needs it 2014-03-20T14:11:29 did i tell you we're doubling down on it? 2014-03-20T14:12:49 No!!! Expecting later this year? 2014-03-20T14:12:53 end of aug 2014-03-20T14:20:34 Cool! Except for the miserable last trimester in humid summer weather 2014-03-20T14:21:13 heh ya 2014-03-20T14:21:37 That si somethign you don't say. :) Just be nice and take her ice cold drinks and cool wraps 2014-03-20T15:32:10 *** gedare has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-20T15:38:32 *** DrJoel has quit IRC (Quit: If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space) 2014-03-20T15:46:02 *** noselasd has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T16:59:58 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-20T17:00:15 *** Matttttttttttttt has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T17:01:14 *** Matttttttttttttt has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-20T18:12:38 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T19:00:26 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T19:05:33 *** Sched has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2014-03-20T20:24:24 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T21:20:00 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-20T22:23:42 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-21T00:39:39 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Or rather, last year's effort? 2014-03-23T07:38:35 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T08:07:58 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-23T08:08:17 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T08:16:13 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T08:17:11 *** dunsmoreb_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T08:22:16 *** dunsmoreb has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-23T08:22:16 *** dunsmoreb_ is now known as dunsmoreb 2014-03-23T09:17:24 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-23T09:38:00 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T09:38:40 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T09:39:23 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-23T09:39:45 *** narendraj9__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T10:22:13 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-23T10:56:56 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T11:08:44 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T11:18:56 *** narendraj9__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-23T13:59:41 *** zoso has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-23T14:29:12 *** shammi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-23T14:35:58 *** shammi has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T15:34:14 *** shammi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-23T15:56:40 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-23T17:56:18 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T18:27:25 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-23T18:27:29 *** edwardk_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T18:36:57 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-23T18:57:26 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-23T20:00:43 *** edwardk_ has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-23T20:01:15 *** mkhoory