2014-03-03T00:41:08 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T00:42:30 good morning 2014-03-03T00:50:14 morning 2014-03-03T00:51:04 Early morning in texas :) 2014-03-03T01:02:33 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-03-03T01:03:59 *** monstr__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T01:24:20 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T02:01:53 *** Sched has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2014-03-03T07:41:39 *** dunsmoreb has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-03T07:44:26 *** dunsmoreb has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T07:47:03 *** Schoumi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-03T07:47:19 *** Schoumi has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T07:54:47 *** rtemsLogger has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T07:55:09 *** rtemsLogger` has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2014-03-03T08:11:52 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T08:37:58 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-03T09:00:11 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-03-03T09:12:31 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T09:34:17 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-03T09:35:22 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T09:44:56 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-03T10:28:38 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-03T10:30:25 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T10:56:12 *** monstr__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-03-03T11:11:25 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T11:16:04 *** javamonn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-03T11:56:27 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-03T12:11:39 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T12:13:18 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-03T12:45:07 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T13:47:56 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-03T15:14:49 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T15:32:28 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-03T15:36:49 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T16:24:16 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-03T16:29:50 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T16:30:21 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T16:31:42 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-03T17:11:28 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-03T17:13:58 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-03T17:55:49 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T18:10:06 *** javamonn has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T18:28:55 *** mkhoory has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T19:54:34 *** javamonn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-03-03T21:03:14 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T21:06:43 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T21:14:12 *** paulo has left #rtems 2014-03-03T21:26:16 *** javamonn has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T21:47:32 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T22:41:00 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T23:02:48 *** javamonn has quit IRC () 2014-03-03T23:10:13 *** javamonn has joined #rtems 2014-03-03T23:50:02 *** monstr__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T00:04:58 I've notices sebastian has pushed a lot of leon3 (I think he uses a leon4) BSP specific code that supports smp in one way or another... should I aim to set up a sim environment for that board in qemu? 2014-03-04T00:06:21 well I guess tsim would be a better route 2014-03-04T00:08:14 or would any board supporting smp work for smp related testing? 2014-03-04T00:13:57 I think gedare mentioned the arm realview a9 2014-03-04T00:20:39 ahhh nevermind, I just came across the threads in rtems-devel about leon3 testing on grsim 2014-03-04T00:48:28 That whole qemu/leon3 situation is pretty bad (broken) and grsim is nonfree so I guess my only choice is the arm route 2014-03-04T01:13:50 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-04T02:16:07 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-04T05:30:31 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T06:25:05 *** javamonn has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-04T06:45:37 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-04T07:14:06 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T07:18:02 *** Sched has quit IRC (Changing host) 2014-03-04T07:18:03 *** Sched has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T07:22:49 *** Sched has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2014-03-04T08:10:34 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T08:31:07 *** atgreen has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T08:42:13 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-04T09:14:34 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-04T09:55:59 *** monstr__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-04T10:09:54 *** atgreen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2014-03-04T12:00:25 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:05:09 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:09:34 *** sh_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:10:25 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-04T12:10:49 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:13:07 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-04T12:13:12 *** kiwichri_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:17:11 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-04T12:18:26 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:30:51 *** kiwichri_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-04T12:31:05 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T12:50:52 *** paulo has left #rtems 2014-03-04T13:10:32 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T13:20:04 *** paulo has left #rtems 2014-03-04T13:39:24 *** sh_ has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2014-03-04T16:36:25 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-04T17:17:09 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T17:23:24 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T17:37:36 *** paulo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-03-04T18:14:18 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-04T18:14:43 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T18:30:47 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-04T18:39:57 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T18:54:28 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2014-03-04T19:20:33 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2014-03-04T19:42:50 *** javamonn has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T19:55:50 Shelf: how's it going? 2014-03-04T21:22:26 *** xMYTHICx has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T21:24:23 *** xMYTHICx has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-04T21:27:27 so I'm trying to compile with --enable-smp but I keep hanging on the lack of stdatomic.h 2014-03-04T21:27:57 I'm on fedora using the latest prebuilt tool chain, my guess is I have to use the source builder? 2014-03-04T22:43:17 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-04T23:00:05 i've made no progress for several days now due to moving to indiana :< 2014-03-04T23:00:17 haven't even seen the mailing list lately, heh 2014-03-04T23:05:57 nice... my situation has been pretty crazy too with school. I'm finally getting around to studying the source and setting up smp in qemu 2014-03-04T23:06:23 main proposal is going to be implementing fine grained locking in semaphores and events 2014-03-04T23:06:46 thinking about doing a cv proposal as well 2014-03-04T23:07:29 you should 2014-03-04T23:07:42 just to be safe 2014-03-04T23:07:58 doesn't seem to be anyone emailing with better credentials than you 2014-03-04T23:08:04 theres a couple things that seem really interesting but its hard to tell what sebastian plans to implement himself 2014-03-04T23:08:24 mm i was concerned about that. and all the thread affinity stuff is just starting to appear 2014-03-04T23:08:34 worried its a little too in-motion 2014-03-04T23:09:17 your focus was irq affinity, right? seb mentions somewhere in the mailing his he's not sure whether thread affinity would be useful 2014-03-04T23:09:25 the whole thing seems too in motion lol 2014-03-04T23:10:01 he through up a requirements list on the wiki page you might want to look at 2014-03-04T23:11:00 interrupt affinity is on that list 2014-03-04T23:13:08 damn I just spent the last like hour and a half building the tool chain on my ancient work station only to have the build fail lol 2014-03-04T23:24:15 hahaha just getting a build is hard work, huh 2014-03-04T23:26:24 an hour and a half? That's pretty ancient lol 2014-03-04T23:27:17 gcc build is 15 minutes or so for me 2014-03-04T23:28:34 pentium D :) 2014-03-04T23:30:03 I have other work stations, the pentium is the only one I have exclusive time on though. compile time is a major pain. I got it for free though haha. 2014-03-04T23:37:11 Ah, pentium D. I remember when that used to be considered a beast 2014-03-04T23:46:05 *** monstr__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T00:41:49 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T00:42:04 good morning 2014-03-05T00:49:08 Morning 2014-03-05T02:06:48 *** gigetoo_ has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T02:11:02 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2014-03-05T02:11:03 *** verm__ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2014-03-05T02:11:03 *** monstr__ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2014-03-05T02:11:04 *** Schoumi has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2014-03-05T02:11:08 *** gigetoo_ is now known as gigetoo 2014-03-05T02:21:22 *** mkhoory has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-05T02:25:41 *** mkhoory has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T03:01:02 *** Schoumi has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T03:01:02 *** monstr__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T06:43:44 *** javamonn has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2014-03-05T07:41:20 *** verm__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T10:08:25 *** monstr__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-05T10:08:39 *** xMYTHICx has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T10:16:06 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-05T10:23:34 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-05T10:40:05 *** xMYTHICx has quit IRC (Quit: xMYTHICx) 2014-03-05T10:48:41 *** xMYTHICx has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T10:54:38 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T10:58:06 *** xMYTHICx has quit IRC (Quit: xMYTHICx) 2014-03-05T11:16:58 *** gigetoo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-05T11:18:23 *** gigetoo has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T12:09:30 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T14:48:48 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-05T15:00:47 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T15:11:44 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T15:27:19 *** hludeevvs has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T15:30:22 *** paulo has left #rtems 2014-03-05T15:52:03 *** hludeevvs has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-05T16:15:48 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-03-05T16:55:56 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T17:51:23 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-05T17:57:32 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T18:56:20 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-05T19:05:00 *** javamonn has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T19:05:48 *** paulo has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T19:07:47 *** edwardk has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T19:35:24 *** edwardk has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2014-03-05T20:48:56 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T21:51:14 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-03-05T22:48:20 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T23:01:18 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-05T23:21:09 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-05T23:33:01 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-03-05T23:49:56 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T00:46:20 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2014-03-06T00:48:00 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T00:50:34 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2014-03-06T01:22:28 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T01:23:34 good morning 2014-03-06T01:31:02 Hey sebhub. I've been studying the kernel the past couple of days and I'm planning on submitting a fine grained locking proposal. You think mutexes and events are the best place to start? Handle scheduler locking later? 2014-03-06T01:35:34 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T01:36:01 i will work on this topic in the next weeks and I am not sure yet how all things will work out 2014-03-06T01:36:07 it is a very complex issue 2014-03-06T01:39:42 okay. I guess I'll turn my attention towards finding another topic. 2014-03-06T01:40:23 yes, it think at this point in time it is not a good gsoc project 2014-03-06T01:41:32 smp as a whole seems too fluid right now so I'll start considering other things. 2014-03-06T01:45:30 *** mkhoory has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2014-03-06T01:47:27 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-06T02:26:41 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T02:33:26 sebhub, hi 2014-03-06T02:33:32 hi chris 2014-03-06T02:34:31 will the ABI support mixing -msoft-float and hard-float code ? 2014-03-06T02:34:40 on sparc yes 2014-03-06T02:35:09 Is this gcc optimisation a win for RTEMS ? 2014-03-06T02:35:39 can you change the weather ;-) 2014-03-06T02:36:04 we think my wife is a rain god; does count ? 2014-03-06T02:36:57 i don't know if this optimization is good or bad, i think this depends on the apps 2014-03-06T02:37:27 it seems to be an open issue for at least 8 years or so 2014-03-06T02:38:17 Yes. If we could collect valid data maybe that would help. 2014-03-06T02:39:11 i just raised this issue to get some feedback 2014-03-06T02:39:53 Are you able to see if an RTEMS test ends up with any FPU code ? 2014-03-06T02:40:09 too me it seems that the sparc stuff neglects 20 years of GCCdevelopment 2014-03-06T02:40:45 i never enabled the fpu so far 2014-03-06T02:40:59 its not an immediate problem for me 2014-03-06T02:41:28 Hmm I am not that sure; Dave Miller did a lot of work in the sparc port when porting linux. 2014-03-06T02:42:54 the sparc stuff in rtems 2014-03-06T02:46:02 Ah ok. 2014-03-06T03:04:56 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-06T03:25:51 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T03:26:20 *** monstr__ has joined #rtems 2014-03-06T04:28:26 *** monstr__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2014-03-06T04:33:14 *** kiwichris has quit IRC () 2014-03-06T06:07:59 *** paulo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2014-03-06T10:12:06 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 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