2013-07-01T00:24:47 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T00:29:44 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-07-01T00:35:58 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T00:43:54 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T00:45:12 Is it possible to change the "ticks per timeslice" configuration during runtime? 2013-07-01T01:00:58 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T01:01:06 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-01T01:02:41 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-01T01:06:39 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T01:12:32 *** arvind_k has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T01:22:41 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T01:42:01 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-01T01:42:05 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T01:43:33 *** arvind_k has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T01:46:10 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T01:49:16 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T01:54:03 good morning 2013-07-01T02:06:16 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-01T02:54:14 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T02:59:03 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-01T05:02:47 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T05:09:13 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T05:17:31 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T05:20:50 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T05:34:38 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T05:36:21 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T05:41:40 sebhub, hi 2013-07-01T05:58:20 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T06:07:11 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T06:35:01 hi chris 2013-07-01T07:16:27 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T07:18:11 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T07:35:26 Hi sebhub, are you around? 2013-07-01T07:35:29 good night 2013-07-01T07:37:25 hello wei 2013-07-01T07:38:57 I have see your mail, and should we also add dynamic initialization function for atomic? 2013-07-01T07:39:32 or just wrap the stdatomic.h static initialization function 2013-07-01T07:40:19 yes, we need static and dynamic initialization which should be directly implementable with the stdatomic.h stuff 2013-07-01T07:40:37 And in the stdatomic.h there are type A and C, and about type A, we can use the type directly like uint_fast32_t? 2013-07-01T07:40:38 we only need one layer to hide it 2013-07-01T07:41:28 no A is the atomic type (e.g. possibly a structure), and C is the corresponding type (e.g. uint_fast32_t) 2013-07-01T07:41:56 yeah, i mean C instead of A 2013-07-01T07:42:32 just using (e.g. uint_fast32_t) directly? 2013-07-01T07:42:36 yes 2013-07-01T07:43:51 if this is a problem we can later add an additional type, but for now this makes it easier 2013-07-01T07:44:22 ok, what about the API of dynamic initialization? using atomic_init(obj, value) in stdatomic? 2013-07-01T07:44:40 and i understand dynamic initialization do not need dynamic alloc, right? 2013-07-01T07:44:58 dynamic initialization means you call a function at runtime 2013-07-01T07:45:16 static initialization means you define the value during definition of the variable, e.g. at global scope 2013-07-01T07:46:48 ok, i see. the stdatomic.h have all those static and dynamic initialization api, We can just wrap them 2013-07-01T07:47:07 ok 2013-07-01T07:48:55 and in my mail i said there is a genericcpuatomic.h which is used for previous implemenation, but now we should consider remove it, what is your opinion? 2013-07-01T07:50:49 and you mentioned a example "test-and-test-and-set (TTAS) lock", and what is the difference between TTAS and test and set ? 2013-07-01T07:53:19 it is slightly more efficient 2013-07-01T07:53:39 http://askldjd.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/test-and-test-and-set-lock/ 2013-07-01T07:54:15 its the easiest practical lock 2013-07-01T07:55:04 ok, i am stduying it. and in the stdatomic there is a test and set api, we can consider whether it is easy to implemant a TTAS 2013-07-01T08:07:59 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T08:31:15 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-01T08:32:17 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T09:21:52 *** freenix has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T10:16:24 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T10:31:11 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T10:36:02 *** phipse has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T11:25:28 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-01T11:52:19 *** weiY has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-07-01T12:16:12 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T12:20:59 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-01T12:56:42 *** phipse has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-07-01T19:30:13 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T19:55:58 *** freenix has joined #rtems 2013-07-01T19:57:21 hi, kiwichris 2013-07-01T20:26:36 Hi. Where can I find more information about the watchdog driver? 2013-07-01T20:34:41 The only thing I've seen is a configure option on whether to include or not include the watchdog driver. There doesn't seem to be any way to actually control it. 2013-07-01T20:38:56 to be honest, I'm not even sure what the definition of a "driver" is with respect to RTEMS. Where are they located in the source and how do they hook up to the main executive? 2013-07-02T01:39:14 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T01:42:18 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-02T01:45:31 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-02T01:45:59 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T01:46:20 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T01:50:35 good morning 2013-07-02T03:51:48 *** freenix has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-02T03:56:00 Hmm.. I think I figured the answer to my driver question, which is basically "I/O manager" 2013-07-02T03:56:10 though I still am not sure how to manipulate the watchdog driver 2013-07-02T06:23:49 sebhub, are you about ? 2013-07-02T06:29:22 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T06:36:59 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-02T06:53:41 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-07-02T06:59:28 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-02T07:01:53 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T07:37:33 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-07-02T07:49:47 *** peerst has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T07:50:08 *** peerst has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T08:09:42 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T08:25:07 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T08:33:47 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T08:39:38 *** S_Somani has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-02T08:40:14 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T08:45:11 *** S_Somani has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-02T08:47:41 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T08:47:43 *** S_Somani has left #rtems 2013-07-02T10:34:09 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-02T10:36:13 *** weiY has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) 2013-07-02T11:30:35 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T15:02:49 *** gedare has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-02T16:09:30 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-02T16:39:02 *** rtemsLogger` has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T16:39:18 *** rtemsLogger has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-07-02T18:23:44 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T18:35:48 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-02T18:47:48 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T18:58:02 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T19:38:34 *** freenix has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T20:02:41 *** kiwichris_ has joined #rtems 2013-07-02T20:10:35 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-02T20:33:39 hi,kiwichris_ 2013-07-02T23:12:41 freenix, hi 2013-07-02T23:13:59 hi,kiwichris_. 2013-07-02T23:14:14 I have a question about the arch specific part of elftool 2013-07-02T23:14:29 I mailed the the devel list of elftoolchain 2013-07-02T23:14:29 ok 2013-07-02T23:14:35 Yes I saw. 2013-07-02T23:14:42 They advised me to use elf_rawdata 2013-07-02T23:14:44 oh 2013-07-02T23:15:27 Then do you have any advice? 2013-07-02T23:15:31 Yes I also saw that 2013-07-02T23:15:40 Just looking for the email 2013-07-02T23:16:29 ok 2013-07-02T23:18:11 I have not looked into the code to see what is happening. I can understand them rejecting arch specific code and hard coded values 2013-07-02T23:18:57 The approach has to be relate to the ELF format and support that. 2013-07-02T23:19:03 Then the arch related things should be handled using elf_rawdata 2013-07-02T23:19:15 Maybe. 2013-07-02T23:19:20 I am not 100% sure. 2013-07-02T23:19:38 What does ARM.attributes hold 2013-07-02T23:19:41 ? 2013-07-02T23:19:45 wait 2013-07-02T23:21:06 it contains general information about compatibility of the object file 2013-07-02T23:21:17 just on the phone 2013-07-02T23:22:10 we may omit this attribute sections. 2013-07-02T23:23:18 But I still want to add some stuff in the rld-elf.cpp. It may be used in near future. 2013-07-02T23:23:50 just use elf_rawdata but not add stuff to elftoolchain. 2013-07-03T00:03:02 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-03T00:39:00 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T00:55:08 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T01:01:43 *** Thorn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-03T01:12:39 *** kiwichris__ has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T01:13:23 *** kiwichris_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-03T01:27:49 *** kiwichris__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-03T01:33:03 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T01:39:53 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-03T01:44:18 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T01:46:01 good morning 2013-07-03T01:59:48 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-03T02:02:16 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-03T02:05:42 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T02:10:11 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T02:20:08 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-03T02:39:03 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T03:36:14 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-07-03T03:55:39 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T04:27:28 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-03T05:30:10 *** Thorn has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T08:38:00 *** Thorn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-03T08:52:40 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T08:57:25 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T09:04:35 *** Thorn has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T09:18:04 *** weiY has quit IRC (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com) 2013-07-03T09:25:24 *** freenix has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-03T10:31:52 *** S_Somani has left #rtems 2013-07-03T10:36:36 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T10:44:59 *** weiY has quit IRC (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com) 2013-07-03T10:55:15 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-03T14:41:23 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-03T14:43:24 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T18:08:28 *** Thorn__ has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T18:08:28 *** Thorn__ has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T18:11:00 *** Thorn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-03T18:28:13 *** Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2013-07-03T19:13:37 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T19:54:35 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-03T19:59:58 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T21:05:07 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2013-07-03T21:06:03 Is there a better place than the wiki for information about setting up a RAMDisk on RTEMS? 2013-07-03T21:06:15 hmm.. guess not 2013-07-03T21:17:10 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-03T22:26:16 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2013-07-04T00:35:20 *** hiddenpearls1 has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T01:06:10 *** freenix has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T01:28:12 *** nickwithers has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T01:45:21 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T01:46:59 *** hiddenpearls1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-07-04T02:05:07 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T02:06:26 good morning 2013-07-04T02:17:53 Mornin' (afternoon :-P) 2013-07-04T02:34:45 Don't suppose you're a -devel@ moderator, Sebastian? I've one in the queue I wouldn't mind seeing on its way 2013-07-04T02:34:47 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-04T02:35:10 sry, i am not a moderator 2013-07-04T02:35:25 All good, I hope someone is :-P 2013-07-04T02:35:54 yes, but they are all in the eastern US time zone 2013-07-04T02:36:08 Been 24 hours now; suppose I should just sign up, really 2013-07-04T02:36:30 hm, is this not an automatic procedure? 2013-07-04T02:37:05 I don't follow? It's a post to rtems-devel@ from a non-member 2013-07-04T02:37:35 ok, i think the list registration is automatic 2013-07-04T02:38:04 Yeah. I'll give it 'til tomorrow and sign up if it hasn't gone through 2013-07-04T02:49:40 *** nickwithers has quit IRC (Quit: Bye all!) 2013-07-04T03:15:46 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T03:21:30 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-04T03:33:19 is rtems_bdbuf_configuration supposed to be defined in the application code? Or am I missing something in my configuration? 2013-07-04T03:33:44 because I get undefined references when I try to compile my application 2013-07-04T03:34:50 http://rtems.org/onlinedocs/doc-current/share/rtems/html/c_user/Configuring-a-System-Block-Device-Cache-Configuration.html#Configuring-a-System-Block-Device-Cache-Configuration 2013-07-04T03:35:14 which rtems version do you use? 2013-07-04T03:36:15 4.10.2 2013-07-04T03:36:35 this is in the C guide? strange.. couldn't find it in my PDF 2013-07-04T03:36:51 its from 4.11 2013-07-04T03:37:25 a lot changed in this area between 4.10 and 4.11 2013-07-04T03:37:52 Does it still apply to 4.10.2 though? I'm just trying to mount a RAMDisk as dosfs 2013-07-04T03:38:08 if you don't need special stuff a 2013-07-04T03:38:12 #define CONFIGURE_APPLICATION_NEEDS_LIBBLOCK 2013-07-04T03:38:15 should be enough 2013-07-04T03:38:18 I see.. thanks! 2013-07-04T03:38:30 wait, I already have that. 2013-07-04T03:38:48 what is undefined? 2013-07-04T03:39:59 rtems_bdbuf_configuration 2013-07-04T03:40:16 ............ WAIT. I mispelled it >_< 2013-07-04T03:42:41 ok now it works after correcting the typo. Thanks! 2013-07-04T03:44:26 I'm really glad you shared that C user guide link. I wasn't aware how old the one I had was! so many things missing in the one I have... 2013-07-04T03:58:52 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T05:00:11 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T06:31:11 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-04T06:37:58 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-07-04T06:39:02 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T06:43:20 *** monstr_ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T07:42:26 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T07:54:12 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T08:14:31 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-04T08:17:13 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-07-04T08:40:12 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2013-07-04T08:52:22 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T08:56:07 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T09:19:39 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-04T09:27:38 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-07-04T09:35:02 *** S_Somani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-07-04T09:36:17 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-04T09:37:06 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T09:43:53 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T09:45:48 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T10:21:24 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-04T10:26:55 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-04T10:34:16 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-04T10:37:23 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-04T10:48:51 *** monstr_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-04T11:10:58 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T11:12:46 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-04T11:43:25 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T11:46:54 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-04T11:47:02 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T12:06:54 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T12:33:00 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T13:23:39 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-04T13:49:23 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T14:45:08 *** S_Somani has left #rtems 2013-07-04T14:46:09 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-04T17:20:33 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T18:17:53 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T19:06:08 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T19:35:28 *** nickwithers has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T19:35:51 Hey all - back in town Chris? 2013-07-04T19:38:01 nickwithers, hi 2013-07-04T19:38:12 yeah back late yesterday 2013-07-04T19:38:18 All good? 2013-07-04T19:38:50 Yes, seems to be and thanks 2013-07-04T19:39:01 Good stuff :-) 2013-07-04T20:11:36 Anyone a moderator for rtems-devel@? 2013-07-04T20:19:19 Not sure what you mean ? 2013-07-04T20:21:07 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2013-07-04T20:21:58 I've had a message waiting for moderator approval sitting there for almost 48 hours now... :-P I've tried signing up, but I guess that needs a moderator's approval, too (at least, I haven't had an email confirmation) 2013-07-04T20:22:05 Heh... 2013-07-04T20:22:32 No sooner do I say that then the confirmation comes through anyway... 2013-07-04T20:36:03 that's strange.. I dont remember the lists needing moderator approval.. 2013-07-04T20:36:20 If you're a non-member 2013-07-04T20:36:39 as in if you haven't subscribed to the list? 2013-07-04T20:36:46 It seems there was just a half-hour delay on signing up, too (I didn't particularly want to sign up to -devel) 2013-07-04T20:36:47 that may be why then 2013-07-04T20:37:25 Yeah, that's definitely why, I just thought that it would have been approved within 48 hours, that's all 2013-07-04T20:38:54 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-04T20:39:03 I'm not even sure who the moderator is anyway :P 2013-07-04T20:42:09 Might explain a thing or two if there isn't one :-P 2013-07-04T20:54:16 *** mje__ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T20:59:20 *** mje_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-04T21:13:09 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-04T21:17:47 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T21:20:52 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-04T21:25:32 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T21:28:50 *** ChanServ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T21:28:50 *** holmes.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-04T21:30:29 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-04T21:31:29 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T21:35:38 *** kiwichris_ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T21:39:04 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-04T21:45:14 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-04T22:37:40 nickwithers, hi 2013-07-04T22:38:07 Hey there 2013-07-04T22:38:35 The EXEEXT is the autotools value and is the standard 2013-07-04T22:40:14 Can't say I'm very familiar with autotools... You mean there's a variable name clash? 2013-07-04T22:40:44 Or that ".exe"'s an autotools standard? Coz that'd be news to me :-P 2013-07-04T22:40:55 The existing code uses the autotools value 2013-07-04T22:41:01 Ah, right 2013-07-04T22:41:05 RTEMS abuses it 2013-07-04T22:41:24 It should be set by autoconf using a linker test and on Windows it is set to .exe 2013-07-04T22:41:37 With you 2013-07-04T22:41:44 RTEMS's linker standard is nothing which is normal 2013-07-04T22:42:07 So, hypothetically, if ".exe" offended my delicate sensibilities, what would I do about it? 2013-07-04T22:42:29 RTEMS's use of .exe dates back a long time and should really go away but that has not happened 2013-07-04T22:42:52 And if I wanted to do the work to make it happen? 2013-07-04T22:42:54 Having a .exe extension is a simple way to find the built exe's after a build. There is no other way 2013-07-04T22:44:09 I'm not arguing for changing .exe inside RTEMS itself (at least, not right now), but why shouldn't I be able to build *my* RTEMS app without it? 2013-07-04T22:44:51 Is this with the Makefile.inc stuff ? 2013-07-04T22:45:09 yeah 2013-07-04T22:45:34 I use a waf build system for apps and never have these issues. 2013-07-04T22:46:22 http://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/chrisj/rtems-waf/ 2013-07-04T22:46:34 Sort of a similar story here, I'd made my own Makefile before twigging I "should" be using the RTEMS-provided one (if only to potentially cut down on future problems, enhance supportability, etc.) 2013-07-04T22:48:10 Have a look at this. It picks up the BSP set up and uses it. 2013-07-04T22:49:04 I think I'd probably rather stay as "boring" as possible in terms of build system, I'd probably be a lot more "on my own" with Waf (well, you use it, obviously) and it might just be another (minor) barrier to entry for support staff down the road, when I've moved on... 2013-07-04T22:49:58 *** ChanServ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T22:49:58 *** holmes.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-04T22:50:05 (Sorry, brb...) 2013-07-04T23:00:30 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-04T23:08:53 *** kiwichris_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-07-04T23:09:16 *** kiwichris_ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T23:13:02 *** kiwichris_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-04T23:22:54 *** ChanServ has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T23:22:54 *** holmes.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-04T23:32:48 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-04T23:35:03 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-04T23:58:55 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T00:05:17 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T00:08:39 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T01:08:56 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T01:28:12 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-05T01:49:43 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-05T01:50:18 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T02:07:52 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T02:08:52 good morning 2013-07-05T02:47:39 *** vipulnayyar has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T03:01:23 *** vipulnayyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-05T03:26:03 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-07-05T03:46:34 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T03:48:06 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-05T03:48:29 Hi sebhub 2013-07-05T03:48:49 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T03:48:50 are you the maintainer for the rtems eclipse plugin? 2013-07-05T03:50:32 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T03:56:14 hmm.. I need to go.. I'll ask next week 2013-07-05T04:02:49 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-05T04:05:49 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-05T04:21:59 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T04:30:45 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-05T04:46:48 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T05:02:11 I've googled to find some informaiton on this, but unfortunately I didn't find anything useful. I want to use RTEMS along with XtratuM; when I compile an example application, I get both an exe-file, a ralf-file (not sure what this is), a num-file (just data nm), and also bin2boot is called. 2013-07-05T05:06:04 the example application is from examples-v2. Do I need to use the http://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/qemu/i386-pc/rtems-boot.img ? 2013-07-05T05:07:05 or is the exe-file adequate? Hopefully, I've made my question understandable. 2013-07-05T05:07:14 *** mje__ is now known as mje_ 2013-07-05T06:04:12 sry, what is a XtratuM? 2013-07-05T06:42:10 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T07:46:20 *** peerst has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T07:53:09 *** Thorn has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T07:53:35 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:12:39 *** sebhub has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:12:45 *** verm__ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:12:48 *** mje_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:12:56 *** rokka has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:13:00 *** nickwithers has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:14:08 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:14:08 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:14:08 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** ChanServ has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** rokka has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** verm__ has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** nickwithers has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** mje_ has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** peerst has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** Thorn has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T08:27:25 *** holmes.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-05T08:28:08 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T09:14:34 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T09:38:20 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (shutting down) 2013-07-05T09:39:09 *** ChanServ has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T09:39:09 *** holmes.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-05T09:46:24 sebhub: xtratum is a hypervisor mentioned at http://www.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/RTEMS_Paravirtualization 2013-07-05T09:54:46 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-05T10:14:38 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-05T10:27:42 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-05T10:50:00 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T11:15:00 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-05T11:38:06 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T12:05:00 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-05T12:14:08 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T12:53:10 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-05T19:16:23 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2013-07-05T22:07:23 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-05T22:22:26 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T23:23:33 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-05T23:41:54 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-07-05T23:56:16 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-07-06T01:28:39 *** Thorn