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I will set up the environment for PowerPC part and github issues during this phase. 2013-05-28T11:13:03 ok 2013-05-28T11:13:30 there might be some SMP support for the ARM soon, which could be another interesting aspect to consider later in the summer. 2013-05-28T11:14:20 Great, Sebastian mentioned he will add SMP support to realview as I remember. 2013-05-28T11:17:26 yes i think it will not be long 2013-05-28T11:18:02 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-05-28T11:25:54 *** MegaAlex is now known as MegaAlex|away 2013-05-28T11:37:08 *** S_Somani has left #rtems 2013-05-28T12:08:08 *** Hesham has left #rtems 2013-05-28T14:57:42 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-05-28T18:23:50 *** embz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-05-28T18:34:54 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-05-28T19:13:22 *** the9a3eedi has joined #rtems 2013-05-28T20:01:57 *** the9a3eedi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-05-28T20:09:26 *** freenix has joined #rtems 2013-05-28T20:15:41 hi, kiwichris.I have established the project on github.loader: https://github.com/MrVan/gsoc2013-rtl.git linker:https://github.com/MrVan/gsoc2013-rtl-host.git .If I have written some code, should I send patch to the rtems-devel list or just commit to my github project? 2013-05-28T20:16:52 freenix, patches need to be broken down and sent to the devel mailing list 2013-05-28T20:17:24 You need correct formattting for the RTL, ie follow what is present, eg spaces (2) not tabs etc 2013-05-28T20:17:43 oh.I just take an arch as a unit. Then I may break the patch to small ones. 2013-05-28T20:17:45 You can maintain the code in the guthub as you like 2013-05-28T20:17:59 A single arch is fine. 2013-05-28T20:18:16 If you have the commit in github let me know as we can review the patches there first 2013-05-28T20:18:51 Are you committing to master ? 2013-05-28T20:18:55 ok. Yesterday, I have committed the arm part. 2013-05-28T20:18:59 yes. 2013-05-28T20:19:12 just one master branch on the github 2013-05-28T20:19:20 I suggest you work on a branch for a patch for set of patches 2013-05-28T20:19:40 then you can pull from the upstream master once applied and kill the branch 2013-05-28T20:19:55 I can then review the patches on a branch 2013-05-28T20:20:05 verm__, is this a suitable process ? 2013-05-28T20:20:45 I maintain a branch at my local reposity. And If I have verified it, I git merge it to master, and push it to github. 2013-05-28T20:20:48 is this ok? 2013-05-28T20:21:03 or I should maintain another branch but not master on github? 2013-05-28T20:24:32 What happens when the patch is merged upstream ? 2013-05-28T20:27:19 sorry for not got your meaning. 2013-05-28T20:29:58 freenix, if I take a patch and add it upstream, what happens in the github repo ? 2013-05-28T20:30:23 I will not pull from github, rather the patch is send to the mailing list and taken from there 2013-05-28T20:39:27 kiwichris,This is the first time that I use github to maintain a project. I am new, hope you do not mind this. I may misunderstand your meaning. 1. git set-url origin "github url" 2. git push origin master 3. git checkout -b localbranch 4. git checkout master; git merge localbranch 5. git push origin master 2013-05-28T20:39:59 this is the command that I establish the project and how I commit the code to github upstream 2013-05-28T20:41:17 I then take a patch and add it upstream to my repo, then you pull from it, will is conflict ? 2013-05-28T20:41:29 Your github is not the uptream repo, mine is 2013-05-28T20:42:50 oh. Got it. Thanks for explaining this. 2013-05-28T20:47:39 *** peerst_ has joined #rtems 2013-05-28T20:48:39 *** peerst has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-05-28T20:48:40 *** peerst_ is now known as peerst 2013-05-28T20:52:33 kiwichris: the rtl project is not in github we were talking about adding it 2013-05-28T20:52:49 i think we should push more of our repos on there, in fact i don't see why all of them shouldn't be on it 2013-05-28T22:02:04 verm__, it is currently a development repo and it might be merged into the main RTEMS repo over time. 2013-05-28T22:23:36 if it's something users will want to clone on github it makes sense to go there since they can fork it 2013-05-28T22:24:00 doesn't matter though they can easily pull from our repo and push to github as needed 2013-05-28T22:34:36 verm__, thanks 2013-05-28T23:12:45 hi, kiwichris. I have recreated the github project as you suggested. I have commited arm related code and a simpile testcase to this project. Thanks for your review. 2013-05-28T23:12:56 The address is https://github.com/MrVan/gsoc2013-rtl.git 2013-05-28T23:50:00 *** lcpfnvcy_ has joined #rtems 2013-05-28T23:50:12 *** lcpfnvcy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-05-29T00:04:45 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T02:04:33 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T02:04:42 good morning 2013-05-29T06:08:09 *** freenix has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-05-29T07:01:43 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-05-29T07:02:58 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T07:31:39 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T09:02:32 *** freenix has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T09:07:50 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-05-29T09:41:24 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T09:52:53 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-05-29T09:54:37 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T09:56:31 *** freenix has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-05-29T10:10:39 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T10:30:21 hi gedare 2013-05-29T10:30:28 howdy weiY how are you? 2013-05-29T10:30:55 fine, now i have some problem to access the gsoc link 2013-05-29T10:31:04 so i cannot see who is my mentor 2013-05-29T10:31:52 is this the atomic stuff? 2013-05-29T10:32:06 and this year we still use the github to gsoc developement? 2013-05-29T10:32:11 yeah, right. sebhub 2013-05-29T10:32:33 this is probably me 2013-05-29T10:32:55 oh, good 2013-05-29T10:33:05 github is preferred. sebhub is your mentor. kiwichris is the co-mentor mainly for backup purpose. 2013-05-29T10:33:11 we will see ;-) 2013-05-29T10:33:19 i will do my best to do this project, hehe 2013-05-29T10:33:38 sry, i have to leave now, tomorrow is a public holiday here 2013-05-29T10:33:46 ok, see you 2013-05-29T10:34:02 and i try to stay available too. 2013-05-29T10:34:07 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-05-29T10:34:37 i have saw there is someone said some build error about atomic 2013-05-29T10:34:42 sebhub lives in germany, so his timezone should not be too bad 2013-05-29T10:34:49 gedare, do you know the details? 2013-05-29T10:34:50 hmm, yes 2013-05-29T10:34:57 let me go check, but i think it was on the sparc 2013-05-29T10:35:16 now the smp atomic is not support for sparc 2013-05-29T10:35:25 well, then that makes sense! 2013-05-29T10:35:39 so when sparc SMP is enabled the atomic is non-existent? 2013-05-29T10:35:44 so it maybe encounter some error 2013-05-29T10:35:57 ok. 2013-05-29T10:36:04 please make this a priority for your project 2013-05-29T10:36:08 yeah, now i just leave the smp atomic implmentation blank 2013-05-29T10:36:21 because the sparc smp kernel support is not ok 2013-05-29T10:36:33 why not? 2013-05-29T10:36:46 yeah, my first task is to complete atomic project 2013-05-29T10:37:01 sparc smp support is ok? 2013-05-29T10:37:04 yes. 2013-05-29T10:37:14 first priorities for you should be sparc and arm 2013-05-29T10:37:16 sorry. i am out date 2013-05-29T10:37:24 sparc smp already exists, arm will be here soon 2013-05-29T10:37:27 yeah, and then mips 2013-05-29T10:37:32 sebhub is working on the arm 2013-05-29T10:37:41 so he will be a good resource 2013-05-29T10:38:13 yeah, i have see that sebhub have submitted some patch 2013-05-29T10:39:12 good. i have submitted some patches to add test cases for the priority inheritance and strict order mutex problems too 2013-05-29T10:39:19 i think i committed those 2013-05-29T10:39:54 yeah. sptests/spsem01 and spsem02 2013-05-29T10:39:55 yeah, this project is also really interested to me 2013-05-29T10:40:40 keep it in your mind. but first thing to focus on will be the sparc and arm atomic support.. 2013-05-29T10:40:44 and after i think it carefully. it seems that the min-heap is not suitable for the priority inheritance project 2013-05-29T10:41:12 i have not thought hard enough for a solution yet. 2013-05-29T10:41:50 because there are some search and delete ops. so heap is not suitable for those ops 2013-05-29T10:42:16 ok. rbtree is better in such cases. 2013-05-29T10:42:38 or chain, if the size of the list is bounded and small. 2013-05-29T10:42:49 but i think the size of the list can be arbitrary 2013-05-29T10:42:51 yeah, and if the lock is not so many, chain is also enough 2013-05-29T10:43:03 it might be a good configuration point. 2013-05-29T10:43:18 since chain has less overhead 2013-05-29T10:43:24 one thread will not acq too many lock in the same time 2013-05-29T10:44:42 gedare, i will also go to bed. see you later 2013-05-29T10:44:49 ok weiY take care. 2013-05-29T10:44:55 byb 2013-05-29T10:46:02 *** weiY has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) 2013-05-29T10:48:17 *** MegaAlex|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-05-29T10:49:38 *** MegaAlex|away has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T11:27:41 *** S_Somani has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T11:29:26 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2013-05-29T11:48:59 *** S_Somani has left 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2013-05-30T09:34:39 Cool! Can I pass it along on Facebook, etc 2013-05-30T09:35:11 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-05-30T09:41:12 sure 2013-05-30T09:41:25 :) 2013-05-30T09:41:34 I didn't have time unfortunately to write something up for the rtems website 2013-05-30T09:41:39 gedare: Fixed the URL for examples-v2 on git. It was in the cgitrt 2013-05-30T09:41:43 so maybe this can be a replacement 2013-05-30T09:41:51 good deal 2013-05-30T09:42:05 peerst: I will try to post it today. 2013-05-30T09:42:12 you back from travel? 2013-05-30T09:42:24 doing well? 2013-05-30T09:45:12 last week's "procedure" was just a normal tire rotation type event when you are old enough to be age discriminated against (poke) 2013-05-30T09:45:27 Michele kidnapped me for my birthday and took me to Savannah and Tybee Island 2013-05-30T09:45:47 Got back midnight Tuesday. Next week heading to San Jose 2013-05-30T09:46:12 :) 2013-05-30T09:46:25 so much travel! 2013-05-30T09:47:00 you mentioned that you wrote some more for the ewili draft? did you update it? 2013-05-30T09:47:06 we need to keep chipping away at that :) 2013-05-30T09:47:51 Crap.. no.. need to 2013-05-30T09:48:49 that's ok. i'm too busy for now anyway. writing white papers to try to get money. 2013-05-30T09:49:16 :) 2013-05-30T09:49:26 Did you try to login to the rtems build farm? 2013-05-30T09:49:35 I would like to make sure the grsim access is OK 2013-05-30T09:50:11 yes, i can get to "b" fine. I seem to have a different password that I do not recall on "a". 2013-05-30T09:50:22 I saw the grsim, but have no time to try it yet 2013-05-30T09:51:27 there was a lot of lag for me, hopping through the git server 2013-05-30T09:52:08 Hmm.. that should be fast 2013-05-30T09:52:15 You can also tunnel 2013-05-30T09:52:32 Use screen on the net facing machine to keep the connection alive 2013-05-30T09:53:56 sure 2013-05-30T09:54:26 Ralf has been pushing rpm commits so who knows how much load is on those machines right now :( 2013-05-30T09:54:39 well, screen on the farm would work too. :) 2013-05-30T09:54:49 ah. 2013-05-30T09:57:01 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2013-05-30T09:57:30 oh by the way, the student who proposed the fault tolerant scheduler is planning to work on the project anyway, and I have agreed to help guide his effort. 2013-05-30T09:57:52 Awesome! I am happy to help as well. 2013-05-30T09:58:03 just so you know. it is just as well also he was not accepted officially, he has some concerns about his work situation because he got RA funding for the summer anyhow. 2013-05-30T09:58:12 so this works out. 2013-05-30T09:58:22 I am wondering what Sebastian tripped across in the smp scheduling algorithm. 2013-05-30T09:58:30 The ESA SOCIS was announced yesterday 2013-05-30T09:58:48 probably that it was not a rigorous scheduler :) 2013-05-30T09:58:50 http://sophia.estec.esa.int/socis2013/ 2013-05-30T09:59:27 20/06: mentoring organizations application deadline 2013-05-30T10:01:03 *** weiY has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-05-30T10:11:23 what does this logo of socis show? bratwurst in orbit? 2013-05-30T10:11:55 lol.. it would look like that from Germany 2013-05-30T10:12:48 or maybe it is a tail? 2013-05-30T10:12:58 or maybe it is something...foul 2013-05-30T10:13:32 It looks like 01s in a comet tail 2013-05-30T10:24:43 *** monstr_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-05-30T10:34:31 Bratwurst with comet tail of 01s 2013-05-30T10:38:03 Its really a bratwurst: http://sophia.estec.esa.int/socis2013/sites/default/files/socisLOGO.png 2013-05-30T10:55:20 so it is! 2013-05-30T10:55:25 sausage in space 2013-05-30T10:55:32 peerst: how do you like your brat? 2013-05-30T10:56:02 i eat brats about once a week. 2013-05-30T10:57:51 i like 'em all kinds of ways, but especially with horseradish and sauerkraut on a toasted roll, although i also like it split in half with cheese, or doubled up and put on a burger bun. yummy! 2013-05-30T10:58:00 * gedare gets hungry 2013-05-30T10:59:26 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-05-30T11:01:50 gedare: fortunately I just ate otherwise I would be too now 2013-05-30T11:02:03 sauerkraut is nice with it 2013-05-30T11:02:56 otherwise just medium hot mustard 2013-05-30T11:03:06 brb 2013-05-30T11:03:37 yes, i keep a jar of spicy brown mustard especially for my brats. 2013-05-30T11:05:31 sometimes when we BBQ on a small charcoal table grill its just bread mustard and salad with them 2013-05-30T11:05:51 the table grill is nice for just 2 2013-05-30T11:06:06 but at the moment whe have horrible weather here 2013-05-30T11:06:18 not like it supposed to be in May 2013-05-30T11:06:38 so no BBQ 2013-05-30T11:07:47 ah. i actually often just boil my brats because it is easy. usually in chicken broth or (what passes for) beer. 2013-05-30T11:16:41 ugh 2013-05-30T11:17:08 don't know what kind of filling yours have … but this is absolute nono here 2013-05-30T11:17:39 there are sosages to be heated in water and sosages to be either fried in a pan or on a bbq 2013-05-30T11:17:52 can't type 2013-05-30T11:17:54 sossage 2013-05-30T11:18:00 sausage :) 2013-05-30T11:18:06 shit 2013-05-30T11:18:45 sometimes words just go wandering out of my head 2013-05-30T11:19:10 *** hiddenpearls has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-05-30T11:19:48 interesting. it is quite common to boil i think. also it is common to boil and then grill 2013-05-30T11:20:02 at least, in wisconsin where i'm from. which is kind of like the germany of america. 2013-05-30T11:20:17 well, i grew up there. i don't live there now. 2013-05-30T11:39:20 *** hiddenpearls has joined #rtems 2013-05-30T11:47:35 hey verm__ you around? 2013-05-30T11:54:04 gedare: well there are boiled and raw bratwursts in germany, but the boiled ones are done so in production 2013-05-30T11:54:29 and after you get them you allways fry (=braten) them 2013-05-30T11:54:35 ah 2013-05-30T11:54:56 one sort is whiteis and the other ar red 2013-05-30T11:55:02 whiteish 2013-05-30T11:55:58 oh ok. american (wisconsin) brats have pretty thin skins so maybe that makes a difference for the cooking style. 2013-05-30T11:56:42 bratwurst ist eaten with the skin 2013-05-30T11:56:49 american brats are whiteish 2013-05-30T11:57:37 the image I found for wisconsin brats http://www.miesfelds.com/images/brats/brat_grand_champion_cheddar.jpg 2013-05-30T11:57:44 looks more like a red one 2013-05-30T11:57:57 hmm. ok maybe we have both :) 2013-05-30T11:58:10 those ones by the way have cheese stuffed in them 2013-05-30T11:58:13 both … rofl 2013-05-30T11:58:14 quite delicious. 2013-05-30T11:58:14 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratwurst 2013-05-30T11:58:43 Look under "Sorten" to see just the families of bratwurst here 2013-05-30T11:58:54 heh. a lot :) 2013-05-30T11:59:18 in reality there are hundreds of kinds of wurst just in germany 2013-05-30T12:00:38