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2012-11-05T02:10:53  <sebhub> good morning
2012-11-05T03:36:40  <kiwichris_> sebhub, hi
2012-11-05T03:36:49  <sebhub> hi chris
2012-11-05T03:37:20  <kiwichris_> The size of patch is nice. Detecting that in autconf was a hack
2012-11-05T03:38:11  <sebhub> for me this sizeof pointer clearly is a property of the cpu port
2012-11-05T03:38:57  <kiwichris_> Yes. The 'percpu' is an ABI for a specific cpu and the language should not care.
2012-11-05T03:39:32  <sebhub> yes exactly, and the static assertions show is something is not right
2012-11-05T03:39:32  <kiwichris_> If it happens to match a C struct that is nice but it is an ABI
2012-11-05T03:39:47  <kiwichris_> Correct. I like them and welcome them as an addition
2012-11-05T03:41:06  <kiwichris_> My Source Builder tool is coming together
2012-11-05T03:42:01  <sebhub> the recent gcc quality makes it more and more important to do source builds and test runs
2012-11-05T03:42:32  <kiwichris_> I will add build from git/svn/cvs at some point in time
2012-11-05T03:42:51  <kiwichris_> I have tested MacOS, FreeBSD and Windows.
2012-11-05T03:42:58  <kiwichris_> Windows is giving me problems.
2012-11-05T03:43:49  <kiwichris_> I think the MSYS environment is suffering not having large packages being built on it. Most cross compiler from Unix
2012-11-05T03:49:35  <sebhub> yes, i gave up to build gcc on msys
2012-11-05T03:51:42  <kiwichris_> I feel it needs to happen, even if (I dare say) cygwin is used. I feel a Windows user needs to be able to build from source without the need for a Unix box
2012-11-05T03:54:21  <kiwichris_> http://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/chrisj/source-builder/source-builder.html
2012-11-05T03:55:08  <kiwichris_> there is no git repo available :)
2012-11-05T03:59:51  <sebhub> http://git.rtems.org/rtems/commit/?id=b3cee28a519e96082d4309447d268dd4740a187c
2012-11-05T04:00:06  <sebhub> pretty interesting that nobody noticed this bug before
2012-11-05T04:05:26  <kiwichris_> I suspect the bug has been noticed but never located
2012-11-05T04:05:30  <kiwichris_> Nice find
2012-11-05T04:06:14  <sebhub> the lauterbach trace32 rtems awareness is very helpful for these kind of bugs
2012-11-05T04:06:28  <sebhub> deadlock detection
2012-11-05T04:06:37  <kiwichris_> It would seem it is
2012-11-05T04:07:29  <sebhub> in case you end up in the idle task forever you can inspect the system state with the debugger, it shows you also all task stacks
2012-11-05T04:08:31  <sebhub> your source builder uses the rpm spec files from rtems-crossrpms?
2012-11-05T04:32:48  <kiwichris_> No, the specbuilder does that. I am moving from that. I want to have the control in the tool.
2012-11-05T04:33:10  <kiwichris_>  ?. I am moving awat from that. ....
2012-11-05T04:34:13  <kiwichris_> Based the scripting on the spec file format because I had the code
2012-11-05T04:36:08  <sebhub> ok, we need a place to store all the magic configure parameters, I think they are currently only in the spec files
2012-11-05T04:41:12  <kiwichris_> The source builder tool has a config directory. In this we place the configuration scripts that build gcc etc.
2012-11-05T04:41:37  <kiwichris_> then in an RTEMS source builder tool we put the build sets for rtems tools.
2012-11-05T04:41:45  <kiwichris_> Including the patches
2012-11-05T04:42:37  <sebhub> ok, so you want to provide a stand alone alternative to the rtems-crossrpms
2012-11-05T04:45:11  <kiwichris_> My focus currently is building tools outside of the RTEMS project. It just happens to be able to build RTEMS tools.
2012-11-05T04:45:38  <sebhub> ok
2012-11-05T04:45:43  <kiwichris_> Tools outside of RTEMS tend to be script based and those have maintance issues
2012-11-05T04:45:59  <kiwichris_> One is using different hosts
2012-11-05T04:46:04  <kiwichris_> from one tool
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2012-11-05T06:28:27  <kiwichris_> sebhub, is 4.10 really using gcc 4.47 ?
2012-11-05T06:28:33  <kiwichris_> 4.4.7
2012-11-05T06:32:40  <sebhub> yes
2012-11-05T06:33:19  <kiwichris_> There is a bug in mpfr and that gcc in some mpfr versions
2012-11-05T06:33:36  <kiwichris_> on darwin and solaris and it seems freebsd
2012-11-05T06:36:17  <kiwichris_> I'm off for the night, cya
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2012-11-06T01:58:08  <sebhub> good morning
2012-11-06T02:07:36  <kiwichris> sebhub, hi
2012-11-06T02:31:19  <sebhub> it will take me some time to try out your source builder
2012-11-06T02:34:45  <kiwichris> How did you know I would ask ? :)
2012-11-06T02:35:22  <sebhub> i have some deadlines to meet
2012-11-06T02:35:33  <kiwichris> All I need is some feedback on suse
2012-11-06T02:35:43  <kiwichris> I understand. I have tested Ubuntu
2012-11-06T02:36:21  <sebhub> ok, I try my best
2012-11-06T02:36:43  <kiwichris> Thanks. It is not going anywhere :)
2012-11-06T02:38:27  <kiwichris> I have been working through the Windows issues slowly. I can build an arm-eabi tool chain but I die building gdb.
2012-11-06T02:39:04  <kiwichris> The build has to be -j1 or make dies due to an issue with the MSYS process handling and the source builder python threads.
2012-11-06T02:43:35  <sebhub> do you know the email address for the gcc compile farm account request?
2012-11-06T03:40:25  <kiwichris> No. I think it is on the gcc web site.
2012-11-06T05:48:20  <lcpfnvcy_> question
2012-11-06T05:48:46  <lcpfnvcy_> whats the status on 'multi-core' rtems support for i386 bsp?
2012-11-06T05:48:54  <lcpfnvcy_> or is it still in development?
2012-11-06T06:28:37  <sebhub> yes
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2012-11-07T01:58:38  <sebhub> good morning
2012-11-07T02:16:40  <lcpfnvcy_> moorning
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2012-11-08T01:51:10  <sebhub> good morning
2012-11-08T02:02:41  <lcpfnvcy_> yo
2012-11-08T02:02:42  <lcpfnvcy_> :D
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2012-11-08T03:44:12  <peerst> www.rtems.org down?
2012-11-08T03:46:36  <sebhub> seems so
2012-11-08T03:47:44  <sebhub> hm, it is only slow
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2012-11-08T04:09:48  <peerst> yeah it loaded after a long wait
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2012-11-09T01:54:17  <sebhub> good morning
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2012-11-09T03:41:40  <kiwichris> sebhub, hi
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2012-11-09T03:54:44  <sebhub> hi chris
2012-11-09T04:46:33  <sebhub> ../git-rtems-source-builder/source-builder/sb-set-builder --log=l.txt --force --prefix=/scratch/install-source-builder --target=arm-eabi gcc-4.6-1
2012-11-09T04:46:35  <sebhub> Source Builder - Set Builder, v0.1
2012-11-09T04:46:36  <sebhub> Build Set: gcc-4.6-1
2012-11-09T04:46:38  <sebhub> error: no build set file found: gcc-4.6-1.bse
2012-11-09T04:47:08  <sebhub> but --list-configs shows a "gcc-4.6-1"
2012-11-09T05:29:52  <kiwichris> Hi
2012-11-09T05:30:43  <kiwichris> There are configs and build sets. Try --list-bsets (I think)
2012-11-09T05:30:45  <kiwichris> I did ./build-4.11-targets.sh $HOME/development/rtems/4.11
2012-11-09T05:30:58  <kiwichris> I have just added 4.11 using gcc-4.6.3
2012-11-09T05:31:21  <kiwichris> The 4.10 has been tested on FreeBSD, MacOS, Ubuntu and Fedora
2012-11-09T05:33:06  <kiwichris> The build set is 'rtems-tools-4.11' for a 4.11 gcc-4.6.3
2012-11-09T05:33:10  <kiwichris> That is ...
2012-11-09T05:33:48  <kiwichris> ../git-rtems-source-builder/source-builder/sb-set-builder --log=l.txt --force --prefix=/scratch/install-source-builder --target=arm-eabi tems-tools-4.11
2012-11-09T05:34:36  <kiwichris> Oh and "cd ../git-rtems-source-builder/rtems'
2012-11-09T05:34:54  <kiwichris> You can build in the git tree. It cleans up and is ok.
2012-11-09T05:35:40  <kiwichris> Anyway look in the 'rtems' dir and run the script or take a look. If you run the script please send me the results.
2012-11-09T05:35:56  <kiwichris> I am off for the night. cya
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2012-11-09T23:25:40  <kiwichris> Source builder doco has just been updated ...
2012-11-09T23:25:41  <kiwichris> http://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/chrisj/source-builder/source-builder.html
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