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2012-09-04T02:02:24  <Ali> hello
2012-09-04T02:03:19  <Ali> Where can i find the API real time functions of rtems?
2012-09-04T02:06:47  <kiwichris> Ali, head to the web site and follow the documentation links on the right hand side.
2012-09-04T02:08:03  <Ali> I wonder if you can write the link
2012-09-04T02:08:30  <kiwichris> Ali, http://www.rtems.org/
2012-09-04T02:09:47  <Ali> If i use the ethernet card, network card, is it done in real time?
2012-09-04T02:10:49  <kiwichris> Do you mean the card's interrupts and networking tasks or the protocol ?
2012-09-04T02:10:59  <Ali> I mean if i create a socket in RTEMS and start reading/writing to that socket, those read/write functions are done in real time mode?
2012-09-04T02:11:57  <kiwichris> If data arrives on a socket and a task is block it will follow the specific scheduling rules you have set up.
2012-09-04T02:12:24  <kiwichris> All networking data comes through the networking tasks, ie a receive task.
2012-09-04T02:12:38  <kiwichris> This does most of the receive work.
2012-09-04T02:13:05  <kiwichris> If it and the task blocked on the socket are higher that other tasks they will be pre-empted.
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2012-09-04T02:15:54  <Ali> so the receive task can preempt another task and it depends on the priority we assign to it?
2012-09-04T02:16:32  <kiwichris> Yes.
2012-09-04T02:17:30  <Ali> if i have a thread in RTEMS and an interrupt comes, what happens next? the thread will be preempted?
2012-09-04T02:18:23  <Ali> and the interrupt service routine begins to execute?
2012-09-04T02:19:00  <Ali> Do we have nested interrupts in RTEMS?
2012-09-04T02:20:56  <kiwichris> Yes the thread will be pre-empted. Higher priority interrupts can pre-empt lower priority interrupts
2012-09-04T02:23:12  <Ali> I see some POSIX API functions like open(), open what file? where is it? is it taken from the network?
2012-09-04T02:24:28  <kiwichris> RTEMS supports file systems and one if NFS.
2012-09-04T02:27:47  <Ali> Can RTEMS execute on a regular desktop modern PC?
2012-09-04T02:28:03  <Ali> or some embedded boards
2012-09-04T02:32:00  <kiwichris> the pc is a supported platform and you can use qemu with networking
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2012-09-04T02:52:56  <Ali>  if i create a thread, that thread can be blocked waiting for an I/O operation to be completed, right? so i can not be sure when a thread finishes in general
2012-09-04T02:55:13  <kiwichris> I am a bit confused about the application. What is the application ?
2012-09-04T03:37:50  <Ali> i am investigating RTEMS theoretically
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2012-09-04T03:53:33  <Ali> I wonder if my question can be answered
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2012-09-04T03:55:30  <Ali> I appreciate kiwichris
2012-09-04T03:59:17  <kiwichris> no problem
2012-09-04T03:59:52  <Ali> i wonder if i can repeat my question:  if i create a thread, that thread can be blocked waiting for an I/O operation to be completed, right? so i can not be sure when a thread finishes in general
2012-09-04T04:02:23  <kiwichris> The rtems schedular preempts the running task is a higher priority task is made ready
2012-09-04T04:02:34  <kiwichris> ? if a ..
2012-09-04T04:07:14  <Ali> i found out nothing from your answer, sir
2012-09-04T04:11:16  <Ali> Another question: is RTEMS a hard real time system?
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2012-09-04T04:38:05  <kiwichris> I do not like terms such as hard real time. If you google real-time these days it is all about social networking and keeping up to date :)
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2012-09-05T01:12:14  <krzysiekm13> hi
2012-09-05T01:15:40  <krzysiekm13> kiwichris, are you there?
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2012-09-05T06:11:45  <kiwichris> yeah
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2012-09-05T17:40:20  <DrJoel> kiwichris, really there or drinking some new zealand savignon blanc for breakfast beside the tennis court?
2012-09-05T17:41:44  <kiwichris> <hick> it is 8:30am <hick> zso whazzz zzup ?
2012-09-05T17:43:14  <kiwichris> Out of tennis for another 4 weeks or so due to a calf muscle tear :(
2012-09-05T17:43:21  <DrJoel> just blasted out the patches... rtems-libbsd flurry was first, then one to rtems, now the set to newlib,
2012-09-05T17:44:09  <DrJoel> I have built only the mips toolchain.. but it builds both old stack and new stack.
2012-09-05T17:44:32  <DrJoel> There are likely more adjustments to make as we move forward but cdefs.h will be basically FreeBSD's after this.
2012-09-05T17:44:44  <kiwichris> Does rtems.git build with the currently release tools ?
2012-09-05T17:44:46  <DrJoel> uio.h will be FreeBSD's with a couple of edits.
2012-09-05T17:45:11  <DrJoel> grrr... I hope so.. need to check that one. <sigh>
2012-09-05T17:45:28  <DrJoel> hold on
2012-09-05T17:45:30  <kiwichris> this is a good case of using your personal repo until we are sure.
2012-09-05T17:49:59  <kiwichris> back soon
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2012-09-05T17:53:17  <DrJoel> sparc/sis builds entirely using RPMs .. including tcp/ip.. so no problem
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2012-09-05T18:08:13  <DrJoel> alseh_, how is it going?
2012-09-05T18:20:27  <alseh_> hi, I've been very busy lately with some work at home
2012-09-05T18:20:45  <alseh_> tomorrow I will pack the code for google submission
2012-09-05T18:20:54  <alseh_> the meeting will be held , right ?
2012-09-05T18:24:33  <DrJoel> Yes.
2012-09-05T18:24:41  <DrJoel> Did Chris and my comments made sense?
2012-09-05T18:25:19  <DrJoel> Stick with the current allocation scheme for the submission
2012-09-05T18:26:35  <kiwichris> If the code goes in we will need a PR to have this cleaned up.
2012-09-05T18:27:09  <DrJoel> agreed.. we need some type of extendable managed pool
2012-09-05T18:28:01  <alseh_> so, I should wait with the submission untill you guys get the code merged in RTEMS ?
2012-09-05T18:29:07  <DrJoel> Grrr... crap
2012-09-05T18:29:18  <DrJoel> I confused your nick name with the pOSIX keys project
2012-09-05T18:29:34  <DrJoel> I know of no reason we can't begin to review and merge yours
2012-09-05T18:30:13  <DrJoel> sigh.. long week already.. been here almost 11 hours worked 12 yesterday
2012-09-05T18:30:38  <alseh_> oww ... ok :) ... I was worried that  problems showed up ....
2012-09-05T18:30:52  <DrJoel> not in yours AFAIK
2012-09-05T18:30:54  <alseh_> that's alot ...
2012-09-05T18:31:03  <alseh_> troubles with merging ?
2012-09-05T18:31:50  <DrJoel> was on travel two weeks ago, taught a week long class last week.. been out of town past weekend for holiday.. so basically have ignored everything and now paying for it
2012-09-05T18:32:04  <DrJoel> trouble merging would be nice
2012-09-05T18:32:30  <DrJoel> Have customer deadlines.. and just notice I travel again the 17th... sigh
2012-09-05T18:32:47  <DrJoel> on a positive note, I may get to visit Gedare then. Will be near him
2012-09-05T18:37:05  <kiwichris> hey nice to drop by and say hi to him
2012-09-05T18:38:14  <alseh_> I'll leave now ... 3AM here ... got to get some sleep
2012-09-05T18:38:16  <alseh_> bye
2012-09-05T18:40:39  <DrJoel> bye..
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2012-09-06T09:56:01  <DrJoel> for those who show up for the irc meeting, the main point is the path to getting your work reviewed and merged.. whatever is required
2012-09-06T09:56:32  <DrJoel> I have tracked a few projects closer than others.. pthread keys, arm smp, graphics update, and beaglebone BSP should be very close
2012-09-06T10:04:36  <DrJoel> obviously a slow morning.. anyone want to start
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2012-09-06T10:57:11  <DrJoel> hello akdroid
2012-09-06T10:58:18  <akdroid> hellohello DrJoel
2012-09-06T11:00:42  <akdroid> i would like to work on RTEMS
2012-09-06T11:01:01  <akdroid> are there any projects that are going on?
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