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I have no idea where I am staying in Munich or Nurnberg.. embedded brains was arranging it.. my wife is a bit anxious since she would like to know where I wil be 2012-02-21T14:35:05 *** DrJoel has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-02-21T14:40:52 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-21T14:52:08 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2012-02-21T15:29:39 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2012-02-21T18:29:42 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2012-02-21T18:29:42 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2012-02-21T18:29:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2012-02-21T18:30:19 *** DrJoel has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2012-02-21T19:05:25 *** sevikkk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-02-21T19:06:31 *** sevikkk has joined #rtems 2012-02-21T20:51:52 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T00:04:15 *** Guest94333 has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T00:04:28 Hi 2012-02-22T00:04:37 hi 2012-02-22T00:05:02 I want to develop RTEMS 2012-02-22T00:05:30 For Filesytem 2012-02-22T00:08:24 After i git clone the git://git.rets.org/joel/rtems.git 2012-02-22T00:08:36 I can not find stuffs about Filesystem 2012-02-22T00:08:39 Why ? 2012-02-22T00:09:22 Look in cpukit/libfs and cpukit/libcsupport 2012-02-22T00:09:58 Guest94333, and the git URL is : git://git.rtems.org/rtems.git 2012-02-22T00:10:39 Yup 2012-02-22T00:12:13 Will our RTEMS join GSOC 2012? 2012-02-22T00:12:23 Yes 2012-02-22T00:12:34 Oh, it's wonderful 2012-02-22T00:12:56 Will we have some projects about Filesystem in GSOC 2012? 2012-02-22T00:14:06 Not sure. If someone suggests some good ones we could. 2012-02-22T00:14:22 Is Joel Sherrill here? 2012-02-22T00:14:37 Sebastian is working on a major change to the file system and he may have more input on this. 2012-02-22T00:14:40 I want to develop Filesystem in GSOC 2012 2012-02-22T00:14:49 On Joel is not here. Night time for him. 2012-02-22T00:14:57 What file system ? 2012-02-22T00:15:05 Any one is ok for me 2012-02-22T00:15:45 Ok, here is an idea. I know Minix has add ext2 support that developed themselves. I wonder if it can be ported to RTEMS ? 2012-02-22T00:15:55 that -> they 2012-02-22T00:16:24 I should find a mentor for me in RTEMS 2012-02-22T00:16:50 And this mentor wanna do something about Filesystem in RTEMS 2012-02-22T00:17:01 Anything about Filesystem is ok 2012-02-22T00:17:09 I love Filesystem 2012-02-22T00:18:18 kiwichris: Are you to be a mentor for GSOC 2012 2012-02-22T00:18:24 It does not work that way. We create projects and you apply and we vote on them. 2012-02-22T00:18:29 Yeah I will be a mentor 2012-02-22T00:18:37 That's great 2012-02-22T00:18:51 I suggest you take a look at the Minix ext2 fs and report back. 2012-02-22T00:19:30 Who should i report back to? 2012-02-22T00:20:35 I should point out any project RTEMS puts forward is open to all students to apply for. 2012-02-22T00:21:01 I will take a look and get back. We know the Minix guys. 2012-02-22T00:21:17 I am not sure yet what I will mentor. 2012-02-22T00:21:59 I am familiar with Linux Kernel Filesystem 2012-02-22T00:22:17 And also User-space Filesystem 2012-02-22T00:23:29 We do not have a user space. RTEMS is a single address 2012-02-22T00:23:58 But Filesystem thoughts are in the same ;-) 2012-02-22T00:25:49 We can realize Filesystem in any space we want 2012-02-22T00:26:19 yes and this is what RTEMS does. 2012-02-22T00:26:30 Kiwichris: Cloud you please tell me your mail addres 2012-02-22T00:26:53 I did some stuffs about ttylinux 2012-02-22T00:27:26 I think ttylinux and RTEMS have some common features 2012-02-22T00:27:50 Another project that might be considered, which is a difficult one, is to change the cache to a better algorithm 2012-02-22T00:27:57 there is wiki page somewhere about this one 2012-02-22T00:28:13 And differences, RTEMS is not pure GPL. 2012-02-22T00:28:33 Yeah ;-) 2012-02-22T00:28:41 email to rtems-users@rtems.org and post questions for anyone to answer. 2012-02-22T00:28:56 Okay 2012-02-22T00:29:50 http://wiki.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/Bdbuf_improvements 2012-02-22T00:30:09 Thanks 2012-02-22T00:56:34 moorning 2012-02-22T01:10:53 lcpfnvcy: what? 2012-02-22T02:01:20 In the rtrms dir, i can not find configure file for install 2012-02-22T02:01:49 I just see a dir named "automake" 2012-02-22T02:02:35 *** Guest94333 is now known as Harry 2012-02-22T02:03:07 *** Harry is now known as Guest41097 2012-02-22T02:03:57 *** Guest41097 is now known as Jiaweiwei 2012-02-22T02:08:43 I should run automake 2012-02-22T02:09:19 It requests automake version 2.68 or higher ;-) 2012-02-22T03:42:30 *** panzon has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T04:25:53 *** panzon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-02-22T04:37:07 *** Jiaweiwei has quit IRC (Quit: 暂离) 2012-02-22T05:49:49 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T06:23:07 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-02-22T07:23:27 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T07:26:45 *** dr__house has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-02-22T07:45:33 Hi verm__ 2012-02-22T07:45:35 good night 2012-02-22T10:27:24 *** weiY has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-02-22T10:36:18 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T10:56:28 *** antgreen` has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T11:18:38 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T11:40:01 *** cdcs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-02-22T12:22:58 *** dr__house has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-02-22T12:23:03 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T12:23:03 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T13:28:33 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-22T14:10:19 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T14:10:19 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T14:10:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2012-02-22T14:10:25 verm__, awake? 2012-02-22T15:09:13 yep 2012-02-22T15:10:59 :) 2012-02-22T15:11:16 Less than 48 hours until I leave for Germany and my todo list is longer than my done list 2012-02-22T15:23:04 haha, i know that feeling 2012-02-22T15:25:13 morning 2012-02-22T15:40:09 git use case question... I committed virtex4 and virtex5 BSPs on a virtex branch in my personal repo.. the user needs to test 2012-02-22T15:40:12 git clone git://git.rtems.org/joel/rtems.git joel 2012-02-22T15:40:38 git checkout virtex 2012-02-22T15:40:43 is there anything else he needs to do? 2012-02-22T15:52:17 nope 2012-02-22T15:55:10 ok.. then I actually gave correct advice ... YEAH!!! 2012-02-22T15:55:32 Nice work 2012-02-22T15:55:44 when I merge that branch.. the flow should be something like rebase virtex branch.. merge onto my master.. then push to origin and upstream 2012-02-22T16:01:40 well, push to upstream 2012-02-22T16:01:55 then you can fetch the changes and push to origin that's the better way of doing it 2012-02-22T16:02:10 doesn't really matter though most of the time 2012-02-22T16:05:12 DrJoel: git clone b virtex git://git.rtems.org/joel/rtems.git joel 2012-02-22T16:05:17 DrJoel: git clone -b virtex git://git.rtems.org/joel/rtems.git joel 2012-02-22T16:05:19 works too 2012-02-22T16:07:02 they are already on my origin on a branch.. so wouldn't I push them to my origin/master first? then upstream 2012-02-22T16:07:19 cool on the clone with branch.. :) 2012-02-22T16:07:45 DrJoel: you don't have to, if the change is meant for upstream it should go there 2012-02-22T16:07:52 you shouldn't ever directly commit to your personal repos master 2012-02-22T16:12:30 ok.. I am hoping that either the virtex or malta code will be our first large-ish branch merge 2012-02-22T16:14:17 DrJoel: do you know much about kqueue? 2012-02-22T16:17:07 nothing more than what I have read 2012-02-22T16:17:59 do you think adding this to rtems would be a good GSOC project? will it interfere with your other work in bringing in bsd kernel bits? 2012-02-22T16:19:31 i also suggested csql,innodb-embedded,sqlite support and tinypy http://tinypy.org -- a full python interpretor in 64K (there may not be enough work here for a summer but we can find another lang or two) 2012-02-22T16:19:55 suggested when i was chatting with chris the other day 2012-02-22T16:20:06 I like these suggestions. The python one is nice. 2012-02-22T16:20:32 the python one can be made a full project if we decide to do in-kernel optimisations to make it work faster 2012-02-22T16:20:35 I am looking at porting the ext2 file system code from Minix. 2012-02-22T16:20:57 we'd also want to support most of the python standard library 2012-02-22T16:20:57 what does that mean ? 2012-02-22T16:21:28 The key part for Python is the networking. So you can send an email or poll a POP mail box 2012-02-22T16:22:21 right, we could provide a list of things that should work, core libraries and perhaps some popular python libraries/software 2012-02-22T16:23:04 maybe a utilitiy that will allow for the bytecode (pyc) to be compiled into rtems for speed? 2012-02-22T16:23:17 Yeah. Things that make it easier to develop embedded apps 2012-02-22T16:23:19 there's a lot of little ways to improve performance 2012-02-22T16:23:32 Liek JIT ? 2012-02-22T16:23:38 grr Like JIT ? 2012-02-22T16:24:06 or do you mean freezing modules ? 2012-02-22T16:24:12 well, yeah.. that and compiling the pyc's into the kernel 2012-02-22T16:24:25 so you have the interpetor + core libraries all in the kernel already compiled and waiting 2012-02-22T16:24:32 CPython has loader hooks these days. 2012-02-22T16:24:34 you'll save space and speed 2012-02-22T16:24:48 so tinypy + a utility to do this could be a full summer project 2012-02-22T16:25:03 Yes. 2012-02-22T16:25:21 all the code is already out there so it shouldn't be too hard 2012-02-22T16:25:28 I am currently using PyCXX in a project with CPython and it is nice. Easy to create C/C++ modules 2012-02-22T16:25:34 i would love to see python in rtems 2012-02-22T16:25:37 Something like that would nice. 2012-02-22T16:25:50 Agreed. 2012-02-22T16:26:07 yeah cpython is nice 2012-02-22T16:26:32 this coupled with an embeded rdb and webserver you could do some really nice things 2012-02-22T16:31:26 oh! that's right 2012-02-22T16:31:27 http://snorkelembedded.webs.com/ 2012-02-22T16:31:37 rtems needs this, as well. 2012-02-22T16:31:43 it's much better than mongoose, way better. 2012-02-22T16:32:21 oh wait, i think this had a crazy license 2012-02-22T16:32:33 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T16:34:11 http://www.gnu.org/software/libmicrohttpd/ is good so is http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ .. we could make it a project to bring these over 2012-02-22T16:34:23 DrJoel, I updated the MinGW wiki page to reference Ralf's built tools 2012-02-22T17:15:59 *** cdcs has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-02-22T20:33:10 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T20:45:02 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-02-22T21:04:18 gedare: hey, can you do me a favour? 2012-02-22T21:04:31 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AngKwYy0qUGZdEFsckVsNXJfS2ZRM2ppWGY0bTJKbHc 2012-02-22T21:04:37 fill in any missing information on this? 2012-02-22T21:04:43 anything you know.. 2012-02-22T21:06:00 looking 2012-02-22T21:06:04 thank you! 2012-02-22T21:06:56 i did the sparc64 ones before... i might be able to do the sparc ones too. 2012-02-22T21:07:09 great 2012-02-22T21:16:08 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T21:33:01 verm__ I updated the sparc ones. i'm only really familiar with those and pc386 and sparc64 anyways 2012-02-22T21:35:47 ok thank you! 2012-02-22T21:36:29 verm__ if you have project ideas for GSOC Just email them to me and I can set up pages for them 2012-02-22T21:37:45 ok, i have a ton 2012-02-22T21:39:03 sounds good i will try to help triage 2012-02-22T21:39:15 excellent, i will send some now 2012-02-22T21:47:15 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T21:58:04 email sent 2012-02-22T22:17:02 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-22T22:56:15 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-02-22T22:56:28 *** antgreen` has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-02-22T23:07:32 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-22T23:07:39 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T00:52:50 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-02-23T01:14:37 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T02:06:55 moorning 2012-02-23T02:43:49 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T02:43:53 good morning 2012-02-23T04:24:53 sebhub: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AngKwYy0qUGZdEFsckVsNXJfS2ZRM2ppWGY0bTJKbHc 2012-02-23T04:25:02 can you please fill in any missing information there? 2012-02-23T04:25:08 need this document completed :) 2012-02-23T04:39:37 why do we duplicate information provided by the manufacturer? 2012-02-23T04:41:38 the paragraph is meant as stable, historical information it's only one paragraph 2012-02-23T05:29:15 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-23T05:38:35 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-23T05:51:33 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T06:11:38 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T07:37:04 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T07:39:26 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T07:39:55 Hi, joel 2012-02-23T07:40:43 I have built RTEMS and newlib with LLVM/Clang compiler successfully 2012-02-23T07:41:16 I saw that this morning on my phone but haven't gotten through email 2012-02-23T07:41:29 So this is pc386? Do the tests link? 2012-02-23T07:41:49 i have send a mail to rtems-user 2012-02-23T07:42:15 I know.. just buried.. I am flying to Germany tomorrow and trying to be ready to go.. the todo list is not getting shorter. :) 2012-02-23T07:42:18 yes, just for pc386. and link all the testcase sample direcory test 2012-02-23T07:42:51 and i also test those sample testcase successfully 2012-02-23T07:43:33 but those executable file build by Clang is larger than those build by the standand toolchain 2012-02-23T07:45:36 there are some problem encounter when build rtems, now of some problems i have fixed but there also a problem i think it may be a bug about rtmes configure system 2012-02-23T08:01:07 are they larger given the output of i386-rtems4.11-size or just the actual .exe file with debug information? 2012-02-23T08:01:36 I recall something about the debug information being larger on gcc or clang.. not sure the details.. think it was on gcc list recently 2012-02-23T08:06:00 i just compare the actual .exe file with debug information 2012-02-23T08:31:45 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-02-23T08:32:33 *** weiY has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2012-02-23T08:32:59 *** weiY has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T08:33:26 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T08:53:15 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-23T09:02:52 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T09:31:21 *** weiY has quit IRC () 2012-02-23T09:41:47 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T09:54:38 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-02-23T10:06:47 Did Bad Memory Chips Down Russia’s Mars Probe? http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/space-flight/did-bad-memory-chips-down-russias-mars-probe/ 2012-02-23T10:22:24 I wonder how space qualified their HW was. 2012-02-23T10:22:41 It is export controlled everywhere and expensive. This was a cheap mission 2012-02-23T10:22:44 they used SRAM chips that were flight-qualifieiid but not space 2012-02-23T10:22:53 that's very different :) 2012-02-23T10:22:57 and that is where they are placing the blame 2012-02-23T10:23:00 yup 2012-02-23T10:23:08 zero rad testing on the chips 2012-02-23T10:44:19 *** th_d has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T11:37:00 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T11:49:18 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-02-23T11:54:31 what am I doing wrong to get those awful merge messages? 2012-02-23T11:54:50 It appears that I have captured something wrong from verm__ and it has gotten propagated into the wiki :( 2012-02-23T11:55:13 http://wiki.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/RTEMS_GIT_Repository 5.2.3 is causing those messages 2012-02-23T11:58:55 ahh 2012-02-23T11:59:18 you can put a message in the merge i think 2012-02-23T11:59:30 that might be the right place to put the high level commit message 2012-02-23T12:01:12 DrJoel, 5.2.3 is used when you have no changes in your local branch 2012-02-23T12:01:14 the problem is that the command sequence there is described as what I think of as "cvs up -Pd" 2012-02-23T12:01:22 you just want to fetch the upstream changes 2012-02-23T12:02:09 then is the problem running it on a master branch? 2012-02-23T12:02:52 this occurs when I merge a patch onto my master from origin (personal).. I need to update my master before I can commit and push 2012-02-23T12:03:25 something obvious.. not worth a branch.. say a typo in a comment 2012-02-23T12:03:40 almost everything is worth a branch 2012-02-23T12:04:24 you can change your local master and commit. then you rebase it on upstream/master 2012-02-23T12:04:38 (that should work) 2012-02-23T12:05:22 Is the 5.2.3 more for when you have code on your master you want to merge? Rather than a simple single commit and push? 2012-02-23T12:05:58 5.2.3 is when you have no changes. You just want to get the new changes from upstream 2012-02-23T12:06:44 5.2.3 is the same as a git pull if you have no changes in your current local branch 2012-02-23T12:07:31 if you have new commits in you local branch that aren't on the upstream master you will get those awful merge messages. 2012-02-23T12:07:38 That needs to be noted in the wiki then.. when you have any uppushed committed changes, it generates a merge message.. which you probably didn't want 2012-02-23T12:07:52 local master branch.. right? 2012-02-23T12:08:34 you could be in some other branch. for git it doesn't mather 2012-02-23T12:09:33 ok.. I will try to do better.. Could you add some comments to the wiki on 5.2.3? I am still fuzzy.. I don't want someone else to read that the same way I did 2012-02-23T12:09:53 ok. i will anwser your email also. 2012-02-23T12:10:10 answer* 2012-02-23T12:10:33 Thanks.. we are all learning.. just need to make sure instructions are clear and users are clear headed 2012-02-23T12:10:56 i think that wiki page is getting too big :P 2012-02-23T12:13:38 * DrJoel pokes gedare :) 2012-02-23T12:15:26 yes? 2012-02-23T12:15:28 oh 2012-02-23T12:15:34 fwiw I just did what I meant to do with git ... 2012-02-23T12:15:40 yay! 2012-02-23T12:15:54 git rebase upstream/master 2012-02-23T12:16:01 (while on master) 2012-02-23T12:16:03 i was just dumping whatever i found on that page... i agree that it is too big and needs to be refined, based on what we should be doing 2012-02-23T12:16:05 apply change 2012-02-23T12:16:07 git commit 2012-02-23T12:16:25 yeah i had made a note on that too :P 2012-02-23T12:16:32 git push upstream master 2012-02-23T12:16:44 i haven't yet pushed anything with git, so i haven't been able to iron out any of these issues 2012-02-23T12:16:46 Master needs special care :) 2012-02-23T12:17:51 working on master is not adviceable :P 2012-02-23T12:18:27 I end up committing other people's patches .. and small typo type patches.. direct to master is for those.. any work of substance MUST go through branch.. I have the virtex 4/5 BSPs on a branch now pending review 2012-02-23T12:18:37 Jennifer has MIPS rework plus new BSP. 2012-02-23T12:45:11 DrJoel, in another topic i can co-mentor the ARINC653API and paravirtualization open projects if you need it. 2012-02-23T12:49:29 i think para-virtualization is a prerequisite for the arinc653api 2012-02-23T12:51:11 cdcs thanks for the clarification email i am updating the git wiki page 2012-02-23T12:51:41 *** cdcs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-02-23T12:52:20 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T12:53:03 http://wiki.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/ARINC653API 2012-02-23T12:53:24 cdcs: thanks for the clarification email i am updating the git wiki page; i think para-virtualization is a prerequisite for the arinc653ap 2012-02-23T12:54:06 yes i know it is. 2012-02-23T12:54:57 the proposal is to implement the intra partition services 2012-02-23T12:55:10 i think the worse part is managing the configuration. 2012-02-23T12:56:14 you can even implement the inter partition service by mapping them to an udp port. 2012-02-23T12:59:19 there is an xml schema defined for the configuration of the health services fault propagation and reaction.. as well as the partition scheduling 2012-02-23T13:00:04 we don't have to worry about the inter-partition part i believe 2012-02-23T13:00:17 it should be separable from the partition OS 2012-02-23T13:00:35 yup. the hypervisor provides it. 2012-02-23T13:00:40 * kiwichris thinks todo lists are better call will do or might do lists 2012-02-23T13:13:49 hi kiwichris 2012-02-23T13:14:00 morning 2012-02-23T13:14:21 Just wondering how Joel's todo list before he heads off was going :) 2012-02-23T13:14:33 heh 2012-02-23T13:14:34 list was going .. 2012-02-23T13:14:42 probably growing :) 2012-02-23T13:14:54 Normally does 2012-02-23T13:15:31 Does RTEMS support ARM Cortex-A8? 2012-02-23T13:16:02 i dont' think any of the A series are supported 2012-02-23T13:16:09 only M 2012-02-23T13:16:10 *** sevikkk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2012-02-23T13:16:34 hum... ok 2012-02-23T13:16:41 thanks 2012-02-23T13:17:43 *** sevikkk has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T13:21:04 *** th_d has quit IRC (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net) 2012-02-23T13:24:00 we should revisit the feature freeze for 4.11 2012-02-23T13:33:22 *** cdcs has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-02-23T13:46:41 without a doubt. 4.11 needs to start narrowing down. 2012-02-23T13:47:07 major procedural issues: cutting release from git, git messages, logs on releases, 2012-02-23T13:48:02 might help settle these issues too 2012-02-23T13:48:34 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2012-02-23T14:32:22 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-23T15:30:33 DrJoel: sabine told me you should know your hotel in Nuernberg now? 2012-02-23T15:31:55 yes.. I owe her an email also. Both hotels they arranged look local and interesting. :) 2012-02-23T15:32:32 DrJoel: mind if you tell me your hotel in Nuernberg (I'm also looking for a room there) 2012-02-23T15:32:36 I am staying in Munich a few days before EW .. near Muncher Freiheit 2012-02-23T15:33:07 http://www.hotel-avenue.de/index.php?anz_seite=inshotel&lang=de 2012-02-23T15:33:13 DrJoel, have a great trip, I am sure it will be fun 2012-02-23T15:33:39 kiwichris, I am looking forward to it. 2012-02-23T15:33:50 DrJoel: thanks ... lets see if they have vacancies 2012-02-23T15:33:53 wish the weather would be nicer but it is still a lovely area 2012-02-23T15:34:37 kiwichris, handed Jennifer the BSD code today.. she is going to try to get it to link after calling initialize and figure out how many of the routines are stubs 2012-02-23T15:34:41 DrJoel, you will be to embedded to notice ;) 2012-02-23T15:34:49 LOL 2012-02-23T15:35:02 DrJoel: on which evening is the rtems dinner? 2012-02-23T15:35:03 I plan to tweet and post pictures on facebook... and blog.. 2012-02-23T15:35:07 Wednesday.. 2012-02-23T15:35:19 Tell her to ping me when she has something and I will at waf'ting it 2012-02-23T15:35:40 ok.. this is with 8.2. I will rebase it when I get back on 9.0 and then we waf it 2012-02-23T15:35:59 What is tweet and facebook was in a movie I saw recently :0 2012-02-23T15:36:10 Ok 2012-02-23T15:36:13 there is some sysctl link symbol undefined at link time.. haven't looked at it. Not more than a screen of link errors .. not bad 2012-02-23T15:36:43 You need to add some more parts to the linker cmd file. That is easy 2012-02-23T15:36:58 The names have changed from the older stack 2012-02-23T15:37:19 DrJoel: the have rooms free: I'm probably staying there from we to thu 2012-02-23T15:37:46 want to do 2 days at the conference since my product is also on embedded brains booth on display 2012-02-23T15:38:45 peerst, love a picture when you get setup 2012-02-23T15:39:19 sure 2012-02-23T15:39:23 cool! I can't wait to post pictures. 2012-02-23T15:39:39 especially from the motorcycle probably 2012-02-23T15:39:57 BMW racing bike at the booth 2012-02-23T15:40:08 My facebook circle will be evenly split between .. wow! cool!.. and what's that? and Damn you are nerdy 2012-02-23T15:40:19 I assume we are not allowed to drive it. :) 2012-02-23T15:40:35 peerst, ooh nice 2012-02-23T15:40:59 :-) 2012-02-23T15:41:08 DrJoel: who are you on twitter? 2012-02-23T15:41:28 * peerst not on facebook 2012-02-23T15:42:15 * DrJoel ponders who he is... 2012-02-23T15:42:28 @RTEMS_OAR is the RTEMS twitter feed.. @RTEMS was something in China 2012-02-23T15:42:28 DrJoel: Error: "RTEMS_OAR" is not a valid command. 2012-02-23T15:42:37 @RTEMS_OAR is the RTEMS twitter feed.. @RTEMS was something in China 2012-02-23T15:43:03 I am @JoelSherrill 2012-02-23T15:43:22 * DrJoel is not a great twitter person 2012-02-23T15:43:39 Just so it is said, there are RTEMS groups on linkedin and Facebook. 2012-02-23T15:45:14 DrJoel: following you now (I'm @peerstr 2012-02-23T15:45:57 :) There are so many spam followers on twitter 2012-02-23T15:46:14 I allways report them immediately 2012-02-23T15:46:54 they are pretty easy to pattern match 2012-02-23T15:48:26 DrJoel I have a reservation in hotel avenue 2012-02-23T16:15:00 peerst, very cool! Now I have a guide in Nurnberg. :) 2012-02-23T16:16:02 DrJoel, do you need to take a helmet ? 2012-02-23T16:16:05 I will get a German SIM but won't know the number until Saturday. Actually I have a new O2 German SIM that I couldn't use last summer because one phone actually wasn't unlocked. We were given the wrong code. :( 2012-02-23T16:16:43 nahhh.. I am a thick headed dictator.. I will arrange a parade in Nurnberg for all to praise me. lol 2012-02-23T16:16:52 Is it too soon for that joke? 2012-02-23T16:17:19 yum, I thinking about a tour on the BMW bike !! 2012-02-23T16:25:38 kiwichris, updating front of rtems.org for gsoc.. can you pop over and let me get your opinion 2012-02-23T16:25:54 mainly should I disabled the GSOC 2011 and ESA SOCIS blocks? 2012-02-23T16:27:29 Yes and maybe have the tab expand default for a while 2012-02-23T16:27:36 by default 2012-02-23T16:27:50 Also a comment looks like it leaked 2012-02-23T16:35:09 if anyone here can add information to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AngKwYy0qUGZdEFsckVsNXJfS2ZRM2ppWGY0bTJKbHc#gid=0 please do so! 2012-02-23T16:35:36 yes on disable gsoc 2011? 2012-02-23T16:39:00 how's that? 2012-02-23T16:39:36 Great. 2012-02-23T16:40:30 CentOS 6.2 VM for 4.11 should be OK now. On sourceforge.net .. wiki for that updated.. front page updated.. 2012-02-23T16:40:41 if students show up and ask questions, you all know what to do. 2012-02-23T16:41:06 Sure do. Thanks for sorting that out and the VM. 2012-02-23T16:41:22 please fix the commit logs that are trolls 2012-02-23T16:41:56 I think verm__ said this was difficult 2012-02-23T16:42:00 and I was wrong 2012-02-23T16:47:54 I thought it was difficult past the last oen 2012-02-23T16:49:08 brb 2012-02-23T16:54:43 DrJoel: i sent an email about that 2012-02-23T17:09:20 *** panzon has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T17:21:36 bye... 2012-02-23T17:21:49 need to finish packing and pick my son up (not in that order) 2012-02-23T17:21:53 *** DrJoel has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-02-23T18:18:32 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T18:19:00 anyone else tried out the new VM? 2012-02-23T18:19:15 No 2012-02-23T18:19:37 ok. i dl'd it and tried but for whatever reason my version of VirtualBox won't read the file. 2012-02-23T18:20:56 Is your version recent, old ? 2012-02-23T18:21:33 3.1.6 .. i just apt-get it 2012-02-23T18:21:39 ubuntu 10.04 though 2012-02-23T18:21:56 this is just my play laptop. 2012-02-23T18:22:00 It is at 4.1.8 2012-02-23T18:22:11 ok i will try to install the .deb directly 2012-02-23T18:22:37 Maybe you need to run a VM in your current Virtual Box, load a new OS and then get the latest VM and then run Joel's VM ;) 2012-02-23T18:22:46 :) 2012-02-23T18:29:06 there we go. 2012-02-23T18:29:41 i'm too impatient to actually try using a VM for rtems development, but nice to verify that it can work 2012-02-23T18:29:58 bootstrap on a vm = death by i/o 2012-02-23T18:40:32 heh 2012-02-23T18:40:41 purchase yourself a quality SSD 2012-02-23T19:14:23 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-23T19:21:45 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-23T20:13:08 *** panzon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-24T00:52:20 moorning 2012-02-24T00:57:36 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T00:59:26 morning 2012-02-24T01:51:40 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2012-02-24T01:52:25 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T01:53:04 good morning 2012-02-24T01:54:40 morning 2012-02-24T02:54:21 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-24T02:58:29 lol 2012-02-24T04:33:19 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T07:59:21 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T07:59:21 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T08:20:56 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-02-24T08:25:45 *** lcpfnvcy has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2012-02-24T08:25:55 *** lcpfnvcy has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T08:28:12 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T08:28:49 just checking that all is well on my notebook after updates.. 2012-02-24T08:29:30 sebhub, I hope we have time to go over a few things in person. 2012-02-24T08:30:13 i hope its not dramatic 2012-02-24T08:34:10 nah... just wanting to pick your brain on the BSD stuff and virtex code.. 2012-02-24T08:34:30 i hope that i get the fs stuff merged soon 2012-02-24T08:36:32 :) I am sorry Jennifer and I haven't been much use on the reviewing side 2012-02-24T08:37:00 we were about 3 weeks late on the Malta BSP. :( 2012-02-24T08:37:12 oh, its like me with the fs stuff ;-) 2012-02-24T08:37:59 and that is the customer for the stack upgrade.. so it is slipping also. I want to pick your brain so we spend as much time coding and testing as possible. less time on discovery and stupid mistakes 2012-02-24T08:39:05 Jennifer is setup to play with the 8.2 code from Kevin while I am in Germany. We will rebase on 9.0 when I get back and establish a git repo for the work. Then everyone who cares can track and maybe contribute 2012-02-24T08:41:23 I also want to discuss the virtex code and make sure we are narrowing down on a decent baseline for a BSP. Ric's configuration doesn't include a serual port but tis supposed to use the .h file from the Xilinx tools to configure the BSP. I had someone ask about a virtex5 BSP and thought getting this in would give a big leg up on them completing it 2012-02-24T08:41:27 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-02-24T08:42:15 what are your plans for monday? 2012-02-24T08:42:51 I don't really have any.. offered to visit customers with Thomas is anyone was interested. 2012-02-24T08:43:04 But I was be happy to spend some design time 2012-02-24T08:43:35 ok, maybe you can visit us in puchheim 2012-02-24T08:43:45 plus maybe spend some time trying to make a checklist for 4.11 branching 2012-02-24T08:43:47 but thomas is responsible for the schedule 2012-02-24T08:44:39 I know.. 2012-02-24T08:45:13 This is just a busy time for RTEMS and it would be very useful for some face to face time to more quickly get some stuff done 2012-02-24T08:46:13 yes, of course 2012-02-24T08:46:36 I understand you also have customer demands.. I need to work on the flight myself. :) 2012-02-24T08:47:35 And Monday is opening day for registering for GSOC as an org.. I hoe the hotel has wifi... 2012-02-24T08:48:41 that reminds me.. need to test tethering my computer to phone.. best run on.. need to be at airport in about 90 minutes 2012-02-24T08:48:50 see you all soon 2012-02-24T08:49:04 *** DrJoel has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-02-24T08:53:04 *** cdcs has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-02-24T08:53:42 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T10:41:05 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T10:49:05 *** lekernel has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T10:50:19 hi 2012-02-24T10:50:24 hi 2012-02-24T10:50:26 seems the website is down? dns problem? 2012-02-24T10:50:44 anyone has the IP address of web and git? 2012-02-24T10:50:45 works for me 2012-02-24T10:51:04 67.63.146.250 2012-02-24T10:51:11 I just tried from two different connections and DNS resolution failed 2012-02-24T10:51:12 thanks 2012-02-24T11:39:34 sebhub: and git? 2012-02-24T11:39:54 this is pretty weird, every other site is working fine 2012-02-24T11:41:26 67.63.146.252 2012-02-24T11:41:44 thx 2012-02-24T11:52:23 *** cdcs has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-02-24T11:58:18 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T12:05:45 lekernel you can send patches directly to rtems-devel@rtems.org 2012-02-24T12:06:03 best via git format-patch 2012-02-24T12:06:15 cu 2012-02-24T12:10:49 *** sebhub has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-02-24T14:14:08 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out) 2012-02-24T14:14:45 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T14:35:58 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out) 2012-02-24T14:36:49 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T15:52:07 *** rtemsLogger has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T16:44:47 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out) 2012-02-24T16:45:16 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T17:23:04 *** lekernel has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-02-24T17:23:19 *** lekernel has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T18:40:35 *** lekernel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-24T18:40:46 *** lekernel has joined #rtems 2012-02-24T20:25:35 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-24T20:38:32 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T00:23:36 *** antgreen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2012-02-25T07:53:57 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-02-25T07:59:46 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T09:24:30 *** panzon has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T11:10:16 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-02-25T12:16:26 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T12:23:15 *** gedare has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-25T12:57:00 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T14:44:15 *** kiwichris has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-02-25T14:45:27 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T14:57:33 *** gedare has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-02-25T15:28:47 *** panzon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-02-25T17:18:02 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T17:36:34 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-02-25T18:04:20 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T18:40:21 *** lekernel_ has joined #rtems 2012-02-25T18:40:56 *** lekernel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-02-25T23:54:02 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T00:24:13 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-02-26T00:34:27 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T03:45:51 *** lekernel_ is now known as lekernel 2012-02-26T04:45:13 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-02-26T04:48:12 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T05:17:19 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2012-02-26T05:18:29 *** kuzew has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-02-26T05:19:34 *** kuzew has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T05:29:03 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T07:06:20 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-02-26T07:19:12 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T08:09:24 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-02-26T13:40:22 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-02-26T17:52:14 *** peerst has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-02-26T18:40:57 *** lekernel_ has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T18:41:19 *** lekernel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-02-26T20:13:10 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T20:49:08 *** peerst has joined #rtems 2012-02-26T22:26:13 *** xiangfu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-02-26T23:27:56 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems