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2011-06-28T17:29:38 yeah for a short time until school drop off 2011-06-28T17:30:05 give me a call at OAR if you have 5 minutes and a computer in front of you. :-D 2011-06-28T17:30:56 Will do. About 35-40 min still ok ? 2011-06-28T17:31:19 probably.. have a stray line on a website I am doing for a friend and can't figure out where it is coming from 2011-06-28T17:31:33 the firebug inspection you tried to teach me is almost making sense 2011-06-28T17:31:46 :) 2011-06-28T17:32:10 Chrome also has a great developer tool 2011-06-28T17:32:13 playing with different drupal plugins for cool menus.. nice menu, superfish.. 2011-06-28T17:32:17 using that also. :-D 2011-06-28T17:32:28 Make sure they are secure. 2011-06-28T17:32:34 have figured out how to have a drupal block only show on certain pages 2011-06-28T17:40:31 DrJoel: http://code.google.com/p/include-what-you-use/ 2011-06-28T17:40:39 another nice tool that uses clang 2011-06-28T17:41:55 can it do the inverse? See include files you include but don't need. :-D 2011-06-28T18:25:31 that's what it does, unless you're making a joke :) 2011-06-28T18:35:02 must have misunderstood the description 2011-06-28T18:35:03 night 2011-06-28T18:35:06 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-06-28T19:05:33 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-06-29T01:55:20 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T01:55:30 good morning 2011-06-29T05:02:20 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T05:06:54 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-06-29T05:44:09 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T06:34:27 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T06:36:49 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-06-29T07:15:37 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T08:28:10 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T08:46:25 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T08:56:57 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T09:05:39 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-06-29T09:48:16 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2011-06-29T09:49:05 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T10:25:53 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2011-06-29T10:46:58 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-06-29T11:10:45 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T11:23:43 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-06-29T11:32:25 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T11:32:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-06-29T11:32:28 #llvm 2011-06-29T11:41:02 got rtems compile with llvm? 2011-06-29T11:52:42 nope.. just investigating :-D 2011-06-29T12:14:49 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-06-29T13:03:45 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-06-29T13:06:22 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T13:28:15 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T13:49:23 DrJoel: had you tried FILE for sockets in rtems? 2011-06-29T13:49:31 *FILE 2011-06-29T14:03:14 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-06-29T14:04:04 Off the top of my head, I have no idea. What do the network-demos do? 2011-06-29T14:20:36 not that :) 2011-06-29T14:20:57 may be nfs, not sure 2011-06-29T14:21:34 good question for mailing list. :-D 2011-06-29T14:26:10 resuming, a FILE for socket should remove the need of using send and recv, as socket() is also a way to create file descritpors 2011-06-29T14:26:47 the problem is for that, you need fdopen, wich i was told is not recomended at all to use.. 2011-06-29T14:26:54 yeah, ML ! 2011-06-29T14:27:23 fdopen() was broken long ago and last time I looked at it, I couldnt see what was broken. It might or might not be broken on RTEMS anymore.. LOL 2011-06-29T14:39:00 he, seems i should follow wikipedia article about berkely sockets, thats all :) 2011-06-29T14:39:07 berkeley* 2011-06-29T14:41:21 user error? What are you doing wrong? 2011-06-29T14:49:44 no no 2011-06-29T14:49:50 is this software 2011-06-29T14:49:53 called osgpws 2011-06-29T14:49:55 osgps 2011-06-29T14:50:08 it correlate gps raw signals and give fixed point 2011-06-29T14:50:22 also suupport sockets 2011-06-29T14:50:28 but internally uses fdopen 2011-06-29T14:50:42 so i was thinking to writ the stream server inrtems 2011-06-29T14:51:02 and do the same (FILE to socket) 2011-06-29T14:51:09 wich seems bad practice 2011-06-29T14:51:22 so anyway, i'll have to patch osgps too 2011-06-29T14:53:11 or fix fdopen? 2011-06-29T14:55:30 xD 2011-06-29T14:55:35 no tiem 2011-06-29T14:55:37 time* 2011-06-29T14:55:45 i need this to work first 2011-06-29T14:56:52 ok 2011-06-29T14:58:40 http://sourceforge.net/projects/osgps/ ? 2011-06-29T15:47:29 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T15:47:54 Hi, DrJoel 2011-06-29T15:49:46 Don't know if you are aware, but ESA has anounced the ESA summer of code in Space 2011-06-29T15:51:25 No didn't know that 2011-06-29T15:52:14 I guess RTEMS needs to apply. :D 2011-06-29T15:52:21 *** cdcs_ has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T15:52:30 No didn't know that 2011-06-29T15:52:32 I guess RTEMS needs to apply. :D 2011-06-29T15:52:36 *** cdcs was kicked by DrJoel (cdcs) 2011-06-29T15:52:42 Now you can have your nickname back 2011-06-29T15:53:12 sorry, my connection fell 2011-06-29T15:53:18 no problem 2011-06-29T15:53:27 yup it's similar to GSOC 2011-06-29T15:54:00 the only difference that i noticed is that half of the students need to be from ESA countries 2011-06-29T15:54:37 that's OK .. I don't care where students are from. :-D 2011-06-29T15:55:41 the timeline it's a little shorter i think 2011-06-29T15:56:22 trying to register now 2011-06-29T15:59:20 Luckily the org app is the same as GSOC except describe space relevance. :) 2011-06-29T16:01:54 *** cdcs has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T16:01:55 Hmmm... Do we do a special Open Projects page for this? They ask for the SOCIS ideas page (mandatory): 2011-06-29T16:02:16 *** cdcs_ has quit IRC 2011-06-29T16:02:22 Open Projects page? 2011-06-29T16:02:50 http://wiki.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/Open_Projects is the standard RTEMS one 2011-06-29T16:03:05 yes, i don't think we need another one. 2011-06-29T16:03:17 Just need to update it. :-D 2011-06-29T16:04:07 maybe add a sentence about SOCIS 2011-06-29T16:06:44 regarding space relevance i think you just need to quote the number of satellites that use RTEMS :) 2011-06-29T16:10:19 the space relevance is the easy part. :D 2011-06-29T16:10:32 I wish I could get to the GSOC app data.. the questions are the same 2011-06-29T16:12:03 you just have to remember... :) You made the GSOC application several times 2011-06-29T16:12:52 LOL.. yep 2011-06-29T16:39:23 *** cdcs has quit IRC 2011-06-29T17:06:02 night 2011-06-29T17:06:02 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-06-29T17:50:20 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-06-29T18:08:33 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T18:08:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-06-29T18:08:47 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-06-29T18:16:36 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T18:16:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-06-29T19:14:33 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-06-29T21:00:46 *** panzon has joined #rtems 2011-06-29T23:45:48 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-06-30T01:20:42 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T01:20:42 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T01:36:03 *** methril_ has quit IRC 2011-06-30T01:41:17 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-06-30T01:48:40 *** methril_ has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T01:58:11 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T01:58:11 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T02:07:09 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T02:07:15 good morning 2011-06-30T02:16:33 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-06-30T03:24:11 *** panzon has quit IRC 2011-06-30T03:25:48 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T04:27:56 *** mwalle has quit IRC 2011-06-30T04:30:57 *** mwalle has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T05:22:51 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T05:26:44 Hi :) 2011-06-30T05:27:02 hi 2011-06-30T05:31:58 kiwichris, finally I have good news about the libblock interface 2011-06-30T05:32:25 I removed my debug printf's and it works fine .. 2011-06-30T06:23:47 did you experience problems with libblock? 2011-06-30T06:38:29 yep, under qemu the ATA thread crashes when I try to fetch a block from the hard disk, for some unknown reasons it blows up the stack and the program is going nowhere .. 2011-06-30T06:39:08 when I remove all the the debug messages I print in the console to ... debug the crash, it doesn't crash anymore. 2011-06-30T06:39:16 the standard ata task of rtems? 2011-06-30T06:39:21 yes 2011-06-30T06:39:37 this ata task is a nightmare 2011-06-30T06:39:58 I discovered that .. ! 2011-06-30T06:41:11 I can't explain why it was crashing, even with a ton of GDB debugging .. 2011-06-30T08:02:37 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T08:03:40 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T08:03:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-06-30T08:06:12 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T08:08:51 DrJoel, good night 2011-06-30T08:10:04 night :-D 2011-06-30T08:10:11 How are things going on your side of the world? 2011-06-30T08:11:14 now i have port the hypervisor and partition OS to rtems4.11(the latest cvs head) 2011-06-30T08:11:50 but there is also a small bug about schedule partition OS ' task 2011-06-30T08:12:14 :) With the scheduler refactoring and rework, it doesn't surprise me that we broke something. 2011-06-30T08:12:25 the sample test case can run successfully on hypervisor and partition OS based on rtems4.11 2011-06-30T08:12:26 So is the task bug related to behavior inside a partition 2011-06-30T08:12:40 Is Tobias OK with merging the new BSP when ready? 2011-06-30T08:13:10 yeah, bug related to behavisor inside a partition 2011-06-30T08:13:55 until now Tobias has no replay about my question, and he said the new hypervisor version will be realised soon 2011-06-30T08:14:23 Does the test run on sis? Or is is special to virtualized environment? 2011-06-30T08:16:24 in the sample test case there is four partition OS, each partition OS has two or three tasks, after i run the test case on TSIM, first cycle schedule four partition OS is ok, after every partition OS ' task will enter idle task and donnot schedule any more 2011-06-30T08:16:41 just on the native TSIM emulater 2011-06-30T08:17:23 oh.. so very specific to the scheduler in the hypervisor.. Likely some side-effect of updates between 4.8 and 4.11 but more likely something after 4.10 and scheduler refactoring 2011-06-30T08:18:48 I haven't made an announcement but initial SMP support is almost completely merged. We are trying now to figure out what changes are in our SMP source repository which aren't in the main tree. With any luck, within a few work days, smp will work. 2011-06-30T08:18:48 Not perfect or finished but basically working 2011-06-30T08:18:53 yeah, after rtems4.10 there is no _ISR_Signals_to_thread_executing and also _Context_Switch_necessary , _ISR_Nest_level is different 2011-06-30T08:19:18 exciting 2011-06-30T08:20:20 after adding SMP support if there is large different with the past schedule part ? 2011-06-30T08:21:11 Not from a logical viewpoint but it is in a distinct handler in the SuperCore and pluggable. There are 3 scheduler implementations in SuperCore now -- (classic) Deterministic Priority Scheduler, Simple Priority Scheduler, and Simple SMP Scheduler 2011-06-30T08:21:46 For example, the functionality _Thread_TIckle_timeslice is now in a scheduler method called at each tick 2011-06-30T08:24:43 the scheduler is determined at compiling time or on running time with pluggable insert? 2011-06-30T08:26:11 run-time via confdefs.h :-D 2011-06-30T08:26:30 set of available schedulers is based on configure time options (e.g. no SMP scheduler if --disable-smp) 2011-06-30T08:31:15 oh, with configure time the available schedulers is compiled into lib and what we used scheduleer can be determined by the confdefs.h , right? 2011-06-30T08:36:41 DrJoel: i see there is a ESA's Summer of Code in Space which is very similar with GSOC, can the students who is participating the GSOC take a part in it? 2011-06-30T08:37:56 zwj: I don't think it is against the rules but would there be enough time? 2011-06-30T08:38:07 You have to be enrolled in a uni in an ESA country 2011-06-30T08:40:05 oh, i think i am not in an ESA country and also i have no enough time to it. i am just interested in this activity. 2011-06-30T08:45:35 me too.. RTEMS is applying. I would like to pick a handful (6-8?) open projects would be good candidates for this program. I don't think there will be more than 1-2 students sponsored for an org. 2011-06-30T08:50:25 yeah, i think its scope will not larger than GSOC, in your mail the GSOC project must be marked on wike in order to not to be duplicated? 2011-06-30T09:06:39 esa states aren't limited to europe btw 2011-06-30T09:06:45 for instance canada is i ncluded 2011-06-30T09:07:51 verm__: right.. but it is just 13? countries.. and 50% of students should be from member countries. I don't see this as a big deal. It is just a weird fact of life dealing with ESA 2011-06-30T09:08:39 zwj: Yes. I want to make sure the ESA SOC potential students don't get tempted by projects which are already underway, finished, or not well defined yet. 2011-06-30T09:09:10 I am going to add a section specifically for SOCIS candidate projects. Highlight the cream of the crop 2011-06-30T09:09:21 DrJoel: over 20 i hink 2011-06-30T09:09:25 There are a couple of coverage related projects which are quite approachable and "keyboard ready" 2011-06-30T09:11:17 how much do students get paid, and do mentoring orgs get any money? 2011-06-30T09:14:03 ah there it is, so about the same as gsoc 2011-06-30T09:14:21 looks like mentoring orgs get nothing 2011-06-30T09:14:27 that sucks. 2011-06-30T09:18:08 verm__: where is that info? 2011-06-30T09:23:54 http://sophia.estec.esa.int/socis2011/tos 2011-06-30T09:23:57 2nd paragraph 2011-06-30T09:24:09 1,000 euros at the start and 3,000 euros at the end 2011-06-30T09:24:32 that makes it more than gsoc at $5,700 USD 2011-06-30T09:24:38 but i find no mention of anything going to mentoring orgs 2011-06-30T09:24:48 they may have left it out.. dunno 2011-06-30T09:26:04 probably nothing for orgs.. wouldn't surprise me :( 2011-06-30T09:31:15 that would suck if true 2011-06-30T09:31:19 it's weird, there's a lot of GSoC mentoring orgs which only rely on the per-student stipend. 2011-06-30T09:32:03 for rtems, the per-student stipend has always been put to good use. 2011-06-30T09:34:32 I know, I know. I meant that I doubt some orgs got involved in such a program if they didn't get something in the end to develop their initiative 2011-06-30T09:37:28 *** panzon has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T09:37:36 hi 2011-06-30T09:37:44 it's a good thing to have more people involved in the open source, but the stipend helps to fund others parts of the software in order to develop his "visibility" among users 2011-06-30T09:37:49 (my two cents .. :-) ) 2011-06-30T09:38:04 hi panzon 2011-06-30T09:38:12 somebody knows where does rtems_test_exit is defined ? 2011-06-30T09:39:26 hi shisui 2011-06-30T09:46:49 is a function that (I suppose just ) print exit code, is used in the tests 2011-06-30T09:48:15 Shisui: it's not a deal breaker, if i had to choose between code and money i'd choose code. 2011-06-30T09:48:32 it's simply a nice bonus to have at the end 2011-06-30T09:58:27 it depends on the point of view, if I wasn't paid to code during GSoC I'd have to get an other summer job, and I could not code as much as I want to. 2011-06-30T09:58:59 panzon: tmacros.h .. that shuold be included by the code generated by the test templates 2011-06-30T10:02:29 DrJoel, I updated the wiki to indicate potential SOCIS students that I'm working on the iso9660 project during GSoC 2011-06-30T10:18:19 shayden: thanks. chris said you are doing well so far. :) 2011-06-30T10:21:04 *** peepsalot has quit IRC 2011-06-30T10:31:57 Grrr.. autocompletion shayden should have been Shisui 2011-06-30T10:39:39 *** green` has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T10:39:41 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2011-06-30T10:39:41 *** green` has quit IRC 2011-06-30T10:40:23 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T10:45:20 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2011-06-30T10:54:32 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-06-30T10:58:33 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-06-30T12:51:07 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-06-30T16:07:45 http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/cfe-dev/2011-June/015897.html 2011-06-30T17:14:20 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-06-30T18:46:33 *** methril_ has quit IRC 2011-06-30T19:00:19 *** methril_ has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T21:17:00 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-06-30T23:25:25 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-06-30T23:58:57 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T00:26:40 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-01T01:20:06 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-07-01T01:27:41 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T02:29:05 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T02:29:09 good morning 2011-07-01T02:39:13 good morning sebhub 2011-07-01T02:57:38 *** peerst has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T02:57:51 hi 2011-07-01T03:29:40 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-01T03:42:33 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T03:42:33 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T07:35:53 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T07:35:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-07-01T08:07:25 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T08:08:07 * DrJoel waves good morning or whatever time it is 2011-07-01T08:16:51 hi 2011-07-01T08:17:08 how are things in germany sebhub? 2011-07-01T08:18:14 we keep the things going ;-) 2011-07-01T08:18:50 initial SMP support is getting close to being merged 2011-07-01T08:19:37 this is nice, maybe we can do the smp support for the freescale qoriq platform next year 2011-07-01T08:22:47 :) That was the next one on my wish list 2011-07-01T08:24:28 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T08:24:58 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T08:25:35 Hi :) 2011-07-01T08:28:42 *** methril_ has quit IRC 2011-07-01T08:51:19 Hey Shisui .. big plans for the weekend? 2011-07-01T08:55:33 DrJoel: how goes the clang+rtems venture.. you continuing with that today? 2011-07-01T09:00:00 not today.. heading out of town for the 4th and need to work on a quote :D 2011-07-01T09:00:14 I should start a wiki page to capture what notes I do have before I leave though 2011-07-01T09:17:31 http://wiki.rtems.org/wiki/index.php/CLANG 2011-07-01T09:17:38 See if that makes any sense. :D 2011-07-01T09:28:26 cool 2011-07-01T09:28:38 seems fine 2011-07-01T09:31:12 DrJoel: Clang for RTEMS, nice .. pity that their PowerPC port is no longer actively maintained 2011-07-01T09:35:49 peerst: the intersection of targets they and RTEMS have is about 6. Then there are CPU variants issues. Like SPARC is V8 .. we use V7. 2011-07-01T09:37:06 6 Targets is a lot 2011-07-01T09:37:36 do you mean 6 cpu's or 6 bsp's 2011-07-01T09:38:15 6 cpu architectures 2011-07-01T09:38:19 RTEMS has 15 right now 2011-07-01T09:38:50 are all 6 actively maintained in clang? 2011-07-01T09:40:09 I'm just asking because I turned to LLVM for VLW PowerPC code, and they told me PowerPC is no longer actively maintained 2011-07-01T09:40:16 no idea.. x86, arm/thumb, mips, powerpc, sparc, blackfin 2011-07-01T09:40:58 At this point mostly an experiment to ensure RTEMS will compile with a non-GCC compiler 2011-07-01T09:41:30 I understand 2011-07-01T09:41:57 I meant VLE not VLW 2011-07-01T09:42:28 nobodys building a opensource compiler for PowerPC VLE :-( 2011-07-01T09:43:21 better use arm next time 2011-07-01T09:44:22 know about a arm with multiple CAN, LIN, and FlexRAY ports? 2011-07-01T09:45:54 http://www.ti.com/ww/en/mcu/tms570/index.shtml 2011-07-01T09:45:59 lin i don't know 2011-07-01T09:46:28 it has also LIN 2x or UART 2x 2011-07-01T09:47:14 yeah well 2011-07-01T09:48:13 the only reason I want VLE is to use the second core some time in the future 2011-07-01T09:48:43 tms570 has two cores but running the in lock-step 2011-07-01T09:49:17 anyway to late now 2011-07-01T09:49:41 for redundancy? 2011-07-01T09:49:46 yes, but this vle is quite exotic 2011-07-01T09:49:59 why is it exotic? 2011-07-01T09:50:28 DrJoel: yeah its for lectric braks and X-by-wire things 2011-07-01T09:50:56 ahhh.. but when in the same silicon, I wonder how much extra safety that actually buys you 2011-07-01T09:51:15 yeah wonder that too 2011-07-01T09:51:45 apparently some since otherwise it would be useless 2011-07-01T10:25:38 cu 2011-07-01T10:26:23 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2011-07-01T10:30:36 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-07-01T10:38:19 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2011-07-01T10:40:58 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T10:43:20 * DrJoel waves at panzon .. 2011-07-01T10:47:55 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-01T11:33:30 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-01T11:36:03 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-07-01T11:37:02 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T11:41:51 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T11:41:51 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T11:58:15 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T12:05:05 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-01T12:07:13 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T12:07:13 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T12:25:11 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T12:27:00 hi drjoel 2011-07-01T12:57:13 Erm, anyone knows if there is a define or anything else to determine in user applications whether the used BSP is big endian or little endian ? 2011-07-01T13:01:00 the BSP (rather CPU) defines it, lemme check 2011-07-01T13:02:10 there is a macro CPU_BIG_ENDIAN (and CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN) defined in the cpu.h file, I'm not certain if that reaches the user app 2011-07-01T13:04:00 ah, there is a file rtems/endian.h 2011-07-01T13:05:23 Shisui: try including rtems/endian.h, and look at cpukit/include/rtems/endian.h for some advice, I'm not sure if that is the right way to do it, but it should get you somewhere.. 2011-07-01T13:06:27 is the BSD version which is in newlib 2011-07-01T13:06:45 ah 2011-07-01T13:20:56 oh, nice 2011-07-01T13:21:02 thank you ! 2011-07-01T13:23:28 I don't know if any of them are a great choice but you have them. :-D 2011-07-01T13:23:29 bye 2011-07-01T13:23:32 have a ncie weekend 2011-07-01T13:23:36 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-07-01T13:32:05 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-07-01T14:17:27 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-01T14:45:41 *** gedare has quit IRC 2011-07-01T16:43:40 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-07-01T17:00:28 Shisui, hi 2011-07-01T17:40:04 hi kiwichris :) 2011-07-01T18:01:33 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-07-01T21:09:17 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-01T21:10:28 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T21:10:28 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T21:54:55 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-07-01T22:12:34 *** lcpfnvcy has quit IRC 2011-07-01T22:12:55 *** lcpfnvcy has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T00:08:18 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-07-02T00:20:55 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T00:30:21 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-07-02T00:32:25 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T05:46:00 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-02T05:46:18 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T05:59:28 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T06:38:25 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T06:40:40 Hi :) 2011-07-02T06:40:50 Hi 2011-07-02T06:40:59 hi kiwichris! 2011-07-02T06:42:54 How are things going ? 2011-07-02T06:46:10 Very well, I think I'm barely on schedule now : I can successfully list directories and get through them in the shell. Both direct I/O and libblock layers are working. 2011-07-02T06:46:25 Excellent work. 2011-07-02T06:47:10 I'm actually refactoring my code in order to clean it up, and add some code documentation 2011-07-02T06:48:11 The following steps are : finish the code polishing, fill the RTEMS wiki with my actual work and begin the file access. 2011-07-02T06:48:42 Nice 2011-07-02T06:48:50 thanks :) 2011-07-02T06:48:54 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T06:48:54 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T06:51:43 The others filesystem layers are very well documented (rfs, imfs, dosfs), I can find the informations I need very quickly in the source, it's very convenient :) 2011-07-02T06:51:56 Excellent. 2011-07-02T06:52:18 Did you take the RFS block interface ? 2011-07-02T06:53:42 more or less, I adapted it to ISO9660 constraints 2011-07-02T06:54:36 Nevertheless, I will need to improve the cache management to let the FS be more efficient on block devices 2011-07-02T06:55:12 Ok. I never tested the file IO code so was interested in any fixes you might have. 2011-07-02T06:55:42 in fact in the CVS the file I/O code is empty 2011-07-02T06:56:06 Looks like it needs lots of fixes :) 2011-07-02T06:56:11 ha ha ! 2011-07-02T06:57:56 I'm maybe misunderstanding your code, from what I understood you're defining macros for buffer access to file I/O functions or libblock handlers depending on a configuration constant 2011-07-02T06:58:37 but the file I/O functions are empty (in rtems-rfs-buffer-devio.c), and doesn't follow the libblock functions prototypes 2011-07-02T06:58:42 That is correct. For me it is a build thing. This way you can take the RFS code and create a host executable to create file systems offline 2011-07-02T06:59:06 They should be glued to 'open', close etc of a host libc. 2011-07-02T06:59:18 ok :) 2011-07-02T07:00:19 talking about libblock, the ATA thread gave me a lot of headaches .. 2011-07-02T07:00:52 We want to replace that code with a port of a BSD SATA drivers 2011-07-02T07:02:48 should be interesting. It was a GSoC 2010 project, no ? 2011-07-02T07:03:06 kiwichris: which? 2011-07-02T07:03:22 Yes. It needs a working bus space API which is the hold up 2011-07-02T07:03:23 kiwichris: you know that freebsd switched to cam for 9+ right? 2011-07-02T07:03:35 May have been NetBSD. I cannot remember 2011-07-02T07:03:42 Either that or FreeBSD. 2011-07-02T07:04:07 oh, i see what you're talking about i should have read the scrollback 2011-07-02T07:05:59 kiwichris, I don't really understand the purpose of such an API.. Is it related to PCI bus management ? 2011-07-02T07:06:07 hi verm__ :) 2011-07-02T07:06:14 hi shisui 2011-07-02T07:06:17 how are you? 2011-07-02T07:06:31 The API abstracts the bus from the driver so the driver can work on different buses 2011-07-02T07:06:34 fine, and you ? 2011-07-02T07:06:57 kiwichris, I see. And the is no draft of that on RTEMS ? 2011-07-02T07:06:59 There is a great paper on the net from the NetBSD developer who created it. 2011-07-02T07:07:23 hmm i'm good, it's nice to wake up after a nice sleep.. yesterday was a long day 2011-07-02T07:07:28 We do not have such an API. We need one in RTEMS that is deep in RTEMS and we map to the bus space API 2011-07-02T07:07:41 I'm interested if you have the link somewhere in your bookmarks .. 2011-07-02T07:08:46 verm__, he he, it's the week-end :-) 2011-07-02T07:09:05 I am having to work :( 2011-07-02T07:12:16 too bad. You have only one rest day per week ? 2011-07-02T07:12:28 Not this week 2011-07-02T07:14:21 this is why I'm happy to be a student :-) 2011-07-02T07:18:05 Shisui: i haven't had a weekend for years :) 2011-07-02T07:18:27 i have days off several times a month, rarely on sat/sun 2011-07-02T07:19:27 if the amount of time off is right I prefer it not to be on Weekends ... much less crowded everywhere 2011-07-02T07:20:11 agreed 2011-07-02T07:24:42 You're right, I think it depends on whether you have kids at school or not :) 2011-07-02T07:25:47 yeah sure. it depends how often you want to relate with any ppl synced to normal weekends 2011-07-02T07:26:14 ... right :p 2011-07-02T07:26:18 my girlfriend has a shop with mo to sa noon opening hours 2011-07-02T07:26:47 Retail is hard 2011-07-02T07:27:07 since I can choose when to have my days off (if I have then at all :-/) i sync to whatever is needed 2011-07-02T07:28:01 yeah retail is hard, she's getting out of it and feeling the difference now 2011-07-02T07:29:59 mine is nurse, her schedule switch almost every week : 7am to 3pm, 1pm to 9pm, 9pm to 7am, ... 2011-07-02T07:30:38 this is why GSoC is a convenient way to earn money during summer since I can work whenever I want to 2011-07-02T07:31:09 yeah.. it's good that the ESA has picked up on this as well 2011-07-02T07:31:15 i hope more orginsations do the same 2011-07-02T08:03:04 *** djjara has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T09:46:32 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-02T10:01:18 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T10:01:19 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T10:07:04 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-07-02T11:35:43 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-02T11:49:21 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T12:04:07 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-02T12:04:31 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T12:04:38 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T12:11:05 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T12:31:03 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-07-02T13:36:07 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-07-02T13:36:34 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-07-02T15:49:48 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-07-02T15:55:08 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-07-02T19:56:18 *** djjara has quit IRC 2011-07-02T22:04:01 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T00:18:30 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-07-03T07:16:49 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-07-03T07:31:54 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T07:36:13 *** Shisui has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T07:36:20 hi 2011-07-03T08:35:27 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-07-03T08:48:07 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T10:14:51 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T11:10:07 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T11:11:23 *** peerst has quit IRC 2011-07-03T16:02:44 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-03T16:03:39 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T16:05:07 *** Shisui has quit IRC 2011-07-03T16:06:04 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-03T16:07:43 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T16:07:43 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T16:13:12 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-07-03T17:01:47 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T18:55:33 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-07-03T19:09:17 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T19:43:16 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-07-03T22:47:27 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-07-03T22:48:30 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems