2011-05-16T01:12:34 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T01:12:46 good morning 2011-05-16T01:12:52 sebhub, hi 2011-05-16T01:13:34 the bdbuf problem was a processor bug it seems 2011-05-16T01:14:02 What do you mean ? 2011-05-16T01:14:29 i had problems with fatal errors in the bdbuf 2011-05-16T01:14:47 e.g. buffers in invalid state 2011-05-16T01:15:12 Ok. and the processor bug means ? 2011-05-16T01:15:41 the mpc5200b (e300 core) might have problems with the dcbi instruction 2011-05-16T01:15:53 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2011-05-16T01:32:13 *** fyber has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T01:40:12 sebhub, you mean executing that instruction ? 2011-05-16T01:41:20 it seems the processor invalidates some other cache lines as a side effect of this instruction 2011-05-16T01:41:45 Hmm nice problem to deal with. 2011-05-16T01:42:06 if i replace the dcbi with a dcbz + dcbf everything is fine 2011-05-16T01:42:35 Is this clear the whole cache ? 2011-05-16T01:42:53 no only some buffers for dma transfer 2011-05-16T01:43:10 Ok. 2011-05-16T01:43:43 the mpc5200b has a snooping protocol, but the performance was too bad and I had fifo overruns and underruns 2011-05-16T01:44:06 so i turned to use explicit cache operations and bumped into that problem 2011-05-16T01:46:31 That is not nice. 2011-05-16T02:10:25 *** dimonov has quit IRC 2011-05-16T02:31:08 *** dimonov has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T04:10:59 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T04:43:32 *** bazinski has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T06:05:59 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T06:55:34 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T09:28:59 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-16T09:38:05 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T10:19:25 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-16T10:21:24 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T10:24:41 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-16T10:25:05 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T10:32:50 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-16T10:33:40 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T10:40:24 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-16T10:42:01 *** bazinski has quit IRC 2011-05-16T11:03:26 *** wenjie has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T11:03:38 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-16T11:16:46 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T11:18:59 *** wenjie has quit IRC 2011-05-16T11:25:26 *** cssmith1 has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T11:25:36 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T11:29:45 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-16T11:31:19 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T11:43:18 *** wenjie has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T11:43:33 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-16T12:13:08 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-05-16T12:16:30 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T12:22:09 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-05-16T12:23:00 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T12:58:26 *** wenjie has quit IRC 2011-05-16T13:02:03 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T14:15:43 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-05-16T14:21:37 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-16T14:34:53 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T14:43:01 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T14:59:04 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-16T15:01:54 hmm was joel going to germany this week? i forget 2011-05-16T15:11:34 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T15:50:45 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T16:30:23 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-05-16T16:44:24 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T16:51:37 verm__, I think later in the week. 2011-05-16T16:55:58 ah 2011-05-16T16:56:04 that's what i hought too 2011-05-16T17:48:23 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T18:49:35 *** cssmith1 has left #rtems 2011-05-16T19:25:25 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-16T19:30:39 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-16T20:54:49 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T20:59:59 *** fyber has quit IRC 2011-05-16T21:19:09 *** dimonov has quit IRC 2011-05-16T21:24:54 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T22:13:46 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-05-16T22:26:18 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-05-16T23:02:45 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-17T00:58:58 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-17T01:10:10 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-17T01:29:28 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T01:53:37 good morning 2011-05-17T02:02:19 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2011-05-17T04:39:28 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-17T04:52:22 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T06:04:23 morning 2011-05-17T07:11:22 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T07:11:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-05-17T07:17:02 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T07:17:07 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-05-17T07:47:56 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T08:26:33 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T09:02:53 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T09:20:42 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T09:20:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-05-17T09:23:43 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2011-05-17T10:27:22 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-17T10:32:27 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-17T11:05:46 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-17T11:16:07 *** cssmith1 has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T12:25:24 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T12:32:03 DrJoel: any status on re-installing rtbf32a? 2011-05-17T12:32:29 no .. spent most of yesterday out of office and now Jeff is out of office. 2011-05-17T12:32:49 I recall an email that Chris had his stuff off... isn't that right? 2011-05-17T12:32:54 Are you OK with it now? 2011-05-17T13:02:06 yeah, i said that i'm fine now and to ask chris/anyone else 2011-05-17T14:01:54 OK will ping chris and get it in Jeff's queue.. 2011-05-17T14:05:09 thanks 2011-05-17T14:48:12 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-17T15:25:37 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-17T17:09:50 L84Supper: how are things going? 2011-05-17T17:13:19 hello, we're just shopping around for an RTOS right now, things are looking pretty good here 2011-05-17T17:13:28 Yeap and I have not moved it yet. I will today. Sorry about the delay 2011-05-17T17:14:43 Drjoel: we'll get around to building a toolchain for ARM shortly 2011-05-17T17:39:46 DrJoel: you read any of those docs on KLEE? 2011-05-17T17:47:06 I followed the email but was out of town.. looks command line tool focused 2011-05-17T17:48:48 no, it's not.. 2011-05-17T17:48:49 http://klee.llvm.org/Tutorial-2.html 2011-05-17T17:49:09 there's a library test example 2011-05-17T17:49:12 you can test anything using it 2011-05-17T17:49:28 ahhh.. sorry was really off the beaten path in Dahlonega GA. Find that on a map and wonder what people do for a job there. :-D 2011-05-17T17:49:48 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-05-17T17:49:54 heh i've been to places like that before 2011-05-17T17:50:17 wow that is really in the middle of nowhere 2011-05-17T17:50:47 80-90 miles from interstate.. lovely spot .. was gold mining town and early US mint location 2011-05-17T17:50:55 ah 2011-05-17T17:51:02 now has wineries and apples and ??? 2011-05-17T17:51:11 I need to play with klee and see what I can do with it 2011-05-17T17:51:29 http://klee.llvm.org/Tutorials.html 2011-05-17T17:51:47 the 3rd one is really neat, using klee to solve all the possible solutions to a maze game 2011-05-17T17:51:54 cool! 2011-05-17T17:52:38 the documentaion is rather sparse but the program is very straight forward 2011-05-17T17:53:43 ahhh the joys of free software 2011-05-17T17:54:35 hehe, well if you look at the tutorials it explains very well what it can do and there's a reference manual for KQuery: http://klee.llvm.org/KQuery.html 2011-05-17T18:09:09 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-05-17T18:13:39 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T18:45:18 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T19:43:24 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-17T20:08:07 *** cssmith1 has left #rtems 2011-05-17T20:44:09 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T20:50:47 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T21:39:01 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T22:14:43 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-05-17T22:15:13 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T23:04:31 *** shayden_ has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T23:09:36 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-17T23:09:37 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-17T23:12:28 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T23:17:37 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2011-05-17T23:18:43 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC 2011-05-17T23:56:17 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-17T23:58:30 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-05-18T00:36:51 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T00:45:13 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-05-18T00:50:26 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T00:55:25 verm__, have you seen RTEMS_BSPOPTS_SET in the BSPs ? 2011-05-18T00:58:10 *** arvind_k has quit IRC 2011-05-18T01:10:07 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T01:10:10 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T01:10:37 good morning 2011-05-18T01:10:45 sebhub, hi 2011-05-18T01:24:13 kiwichris: no.. is that for compilerflags? 2011-05-18T01:24:58 I am just putting a mail together on the vc list. 2011-05-18T01:25:12 There are 300 of them in the code for the BSPs and each one changes the BSP. 2011-05-18T01:26:09 i see, i'll have to check it out 2011-05-18T01:26:48 Let me post to rtems-vc. 2011-05-18T01:27:15 Could the buildbot handle this ? 2011-05-18T01:27:55 what do you want to do, fire a build for each option? 2011-05-18T01:28:38 Not sure. At the limit each combination because this triggers different code in the BSP 2011-05-18T01:29:30 http://www.rtems.org/pipermail/rtems-vc/2011-May/001194.html 2011-05-18T01:32:04 i would not care about these options, each bsp provides useful default values 2011-05-18T01:33:03 I am not sure. It could bit rot and that is not good. 2011-05-18T01:34:41 yes, but this only happens if you choose explicit values at the command line 2011-05-18T01:37:24 We have to ask the question then of what a release RTEMS means. I think it is all options build. 2011-05-18T01:38:29 this is infeasible if you include bsp options 2011-05-18T01:38:46 Why do you say this ? 2011-05-18T01:39:48 you need someone how knows if an option is of the enable/disable style, and then you have all combinations of them 2011-05-18T01:41:01 Yes. We cannot hide away and say this is too hard yet provide them. 2011-05-18T01:42:09 wow that's a lot.. 2011-05-18T01:42:49 Yeah it is a lot. 2011-05-18T01:43:31 I have been moving the PC ones to boot command line options. 2011-05-18T01:43:52 This is much better because we only need a single build of the BSP. 2011-05-18T01:44:38 Has the feature been abused ? I am not sure. If this just a reflection of the BSP problem space ? I am also not sure. 2011-05-18T01:45:32 We at least document them. 2011-05-18T01:45:45 they have command line documentation 2011-05-18T01:45:50 via configure 2011-05-18T01:46:11 I am thinking of scraping the help into something online. 2011-05-18T01:46:30 Configure is too abstract when thinking about a BSP. 2011-05-18T01:46:50 You may just thinking about hardware and what it can do. 2011-05-18T01:46:58 before selecting it 2011-05-18T01:47:58 i think this is the right place since you add the documentation close to the option definition and you have them available when you use the options (configure command line) 2011-05-18T01:48:37 I agree the current location is correct. I am thinking what else we could do with this info. 2011-05-18T01:48:43 all of the options i've looked at so far are set-and-forget 2011-05-18T01:49:00 the best approach to this is a single-file configuration, perhaps a Makefile that is included 2011-05-18T01:49:28 such as config.mak, we can put the documentation there and have a note online.. or, put all the documentation online and say to put the directives into config.mak 2011-05-18T01:49:55 i agree with chris that having them in configure is too abstract 2011-05-18T01:51:00 if we think of this from a user-perspective, most if not all users of rtems will have used commercial software as an alternative.. and you can bet they're not asking people to read help output from the build system 2011-05-18T01:51:06 I do not mind the configure.ac place. We need more open documentation for uses than requiring them to download RTEMS, bootstrap it and run configure 2011-05-18T01:51:54 we need to choose one place though, there are simply too many places and options to keep any documenation in sync 2011-05-18T01:52:20 if we choose to document them online, we should strip them out of all the configure.ac and make them makefile directives, we can also ship that documentation with the tarballs 2011-05-18T01:52:39 These sorts can be ignored "RTEMS_BSPOPTS_SET([MPC55XX_FMPLL_REF_CLOCK],[gwlcfm],[40000000])" 2011-05-18T01:52:58 this way if you want to add an option you'll be *forced* to update the documentation (since there is only one place) 2011-05-18T01:53:10 for testing that is. We need then collected into a BSP document. 2011-05-18T01:53:42 i'm quite proficient at docbook 2011-05-18T01:53:49 i can start a document and we can go from there 2011-05-18T01:54:22 we could also use texinfo 2011-05-18T01:54:42 the rtems documentation is a big problem: too many different pieces 2011-05-18T01:54:45 I am thinking we make sure the RTEMS_BSPOPTS_HELP is ok for each then scrap this into something 2011-05-18T01:54:58 we have the old texinfo, doxygen, and now also docbook? 2011-05-18T01:55:07 doxygen is api documentation 2011-05-18T01:55:15 there's texinfo docs? where? 2011-05-18T01:55:20 We have texinfo and that is what we should support. 2011-05-18T01:55:29 you can use it also for normal documentation 2011-05-18T01:55:52 i would move everything to doxygen in the long run 2011-05-18T01:56:14 er, for code or api docs yes 2011-05-18T01:56:34 that doesn't absolve us from having a good user manual 2011-05-18T01:56:43 you can write the user manual in doxygen 2011-05-18T01:57:08 i'll hold back my opinon on that matter :) 2011-05-18T01:57:37 We have a manual now that is doing a great job. I only wish to add a section not change the whole manual 2011-05-18T01:58:33 i didn't suggest that, i didn't know there was any documentation.. 2011-05-18T01:59:16 it covers only the classic api, for the other parts it is better to look at the code 2011-05-18T02:00:08 We have the POSIX pages. 2011-05-18T02:00:36 And yes you are correct but I only wished to solve a specific problem not all of them :) 2011-05-18T02:02:17 we need a clear standard for the documentation otherwise the problem will get bigger and bigger 2011-05-18T02:02:53 the standard documentation is virtually only maintained by joel 2011-05-18T02:03:45 Then raise it on the list and see what happens. If I scrap these helps into something I would be more than happy to export to something else. 2011-05-18T02:04:37 I am not sold on doxygen for everything. 2011-05-18T02:05:13 I still like the old book and PDF generation from doxygen last time I tried it was broken. 2011-05-18T02:06:33 i am not fixed to doxygen, but the texinfo is unmaintainable 2011-05-18T02:06:49 i could trivially convert it all into one large docbook book with chapters 2011-05-18T02:07:14 i use the word trivially beacuse it's possible to convert from texinfo to docbook 2011-05-18T02:07:18 the rest of the work is not so trivial 2011-05-18T02:07:21 how do you document the api with docbook? 2011-05-18T02:07:25 We need something we all know and can maintain. 2011-05-18T02:07:49 i'm speaking of the user manual 2011-05-18T02:07:56 kiwichris: docbook is trivial to write in 2011-05-18T02:08:28 I tend to be asleep just the introduction :) 2011-05-18T02:08:32 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T02:08:36 I have tried 2011-05-18T02:08:40 there's also UIs available for those that don't want to edit by hand 2011-05-18T02:09:02 and what is the benefit compared to texinfo? 2011-05-18T02:09:19 Does changing to docbook make it more maintainable or have we just moved the problem ? 2011-05-18T02:09:41 better index, cross referencing support.. 2011-05-18T02:09:57 a lot more maintainable, i can create an example sometime soon 2011-05-18T02:11:08 i'll ask joel for a list of the documentation in docs/ to include 2011-05-18T02:11:15 i'll use that to create a book 2011-05-18T02:13:02 *** arvind_k has quit IRC 2011-05-18T02:13:29 it's also possible to use doxygen to create docbook output and include that in the manual as well: so we can keep api documentation where it should be.. in the source 2011-05-18T02:13:41 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2011-05-18T02:14:10 this is good 2011-05-18T02:15:52 Yes. 2011-05-18T02:16:34 i'll make an example maybe tomorrow afternoon it shouldn't take long to do something really quick and dirty to show example output 2011-05-18T02:17:09 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T02:20:47 Ok. 2011-05-18T02:23:45 i'm off for the night i think after some reading.. bbl 2011-05-18T02:27:19 cya 2011-05-18T02:28:32 cu 2011-05-18T02:50:18 *** peerst has quit IRC 2011-05-18T02:53:17 *** peerst has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T03:26:08 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T03:26:24 *** arvind_k has quit IRC 2011-05-18T03:26:41 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T03:40:33 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T03:46:10 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T03:47:42 *** arvind_k has quit IRC 2011-05-18T03:48:03 *** arvind_k has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T03:58:54 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T04:48:04 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T04:49:07 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T04:50:52 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T06:49:53 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T07:30:28 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T08:22:30 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2011-05-18T08:35:59 *** arvind_k has quit IRC 2011-05-18T09:06:22 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-18T09:09:33 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T09:15:52 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T09:20:42 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T09:32:15 *** cssmith1 has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T09:41:18 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-05-18T09:43:10 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T09:47:09 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2011-05-18T09:47:54 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T09:47:54 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T10:26:54 *** shayden_ is now known as shayden 2011-05-18T10:27:17 *** xiangfu` has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T10:34:33 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T10:34:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-05-18T10:34:54 *** cssmith1 has left #rtems 2011-05-18T10:40:34 *** xiangfu` has quit IRC 2011-05-18T10:40:55 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T11:00:44 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-18T11:46:14 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-05-18T11:52:53 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T12:10:37 *** cssmith1 has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T13:48:52 *** dimonov has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T13:48:52 *** dimonov has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T13:54:47 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2011-05-18T14:46:21 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-18T15:14:55 *** cssmith1 has left #rtems 2011-05-18T17:40:00 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-05-18T17:45:24 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T17:49:37 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-05-18T19:12:21 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T19:42:34 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T19:43:29 *** xiangfu` has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T19:44:10 *** xiangfu` has left #rtems 2011-05-18T19:46:51 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T20:08:15 kiwichris: do you know if joel got your all-clear for rtbf32a? 2011-05-18T20:08:39 verm__, sorry I have not yet. WIll take a look now. 2011-05-18T20:09:00 ah.. ok thanks :) 2011-05-18T20:11:54 verm__, need to the CVS mail bot thingy to a new machine then wait for a commit to make sure it is working. 2011-05-18T20:12:33 well we have time since noone is going to be reinstalling it anytime soon 2011-05-18T20:12:41 Ok. 2011-05-18T20:13:21 I need a day notice so I can turn off my builder. When will the buildbot be available ? 2011-05-18T20:23:27 i'll probably get it going later tonight just to see what happens after a few dozen commits 2011-05-18T20:23:52 kiwichris: i also talked with joel about the documentation.. and managed to convert several docs to docbook 2011-05-18T20:24:27 he's not against it 2011-05-18T20:24:35 Nice. Not sure I full understand what this means. I suspect I will need to see and play to understand. 2011-05-18T20:24:47 i 2011-05-18T20:24:51 'll put some of the output up 2011-05-18T20:25:02 What does the source look like ? 2011-05-18T20:25:10 i'll put that up too, one sec 2011-05-18T20:25:16 Thanks 2011-05-18T20:25:18 there are GUI programs to edit docbook 2011-05-18T20:25:30 For Mac ? 2011-05-18T20:25:32 i always edit it by hand 2011-05-18T20:25:36 yeah there are some for mac too 2011-05-18T20:25:53 I am happy with source. I just need examples to follow and then make 2011-05-18T20:26:09 ie give me a framework and I will follow it. 2011-05-18T20:29:04 verm__, how are you with perl ? 2011-05-18T20:29:36 depends, if you're asking me to write it from scratch then i'm terrible 2011-05-18T20:30:15 no and I think I see the issue. I need extra perl bits on rtbf64a for the CVS thing to run. 2011-05-18T20:30:52 ah 2011-05-18T20:31:14 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T20:34:59 kiwichris: look in my homedir on rtems i uploaded an html and pdf version of the posix manual 2011-05-18T20:35:10 i formatted the xml file using tidy so it's rather ugly 2011-05-18T20:35:16 Ok. 2011-05-18T20:35:39 and keep in mind this is just a blanket conversion from texinfo to docbook so there are a *lot* of issues 2011-05-18T20:35:49 If you use /home/ftp/rtems/pub/people/amar/... then I could just down it :) 2011-05-18T20:35:55 and the pdf is ugly :) 2011-05-18T20:35:59 Sure. 2011-05-18T20:36:05 hmm ok 2011-05-18T20:36:18 You do not have to. I can scp it. 2011-05-18T20:37:17 ok cool 2011-05-18T20:37:38 i can make the pdf look like our current ones, nicer even 2011-05-18T20:37:51 and sgml does support chunked output as well (split html pages) 2011-05-18T20:37:59 The vc commit info email are now running from rtbf64a 2011-05-18T20:38:03 s/sgml/docbook/ 2011-05-18T20:38:04 nice 2011-05-18T20:38:23 We will need a git version of this. I suppose they exist. 2011-05-18T20:38:34 they do 2011-05-18T20:38:45 Or can buildbot handle this for us ? 2011-05-18T20:38:53 no, it's not designed to do that 2011-05-18T20:38:57 Ok. 2011-05-18T20:39:31 I am clear of rtbf32a 2011-05-18T20:40:33 nice ok 2011-05-18T20:40:40 thanks for taking care of that 2011-05-18T20:41:23 no problem, sorry about the delay 2011-05-18T20:41:31 no worries 2011-05-18T20:43:44 the PDF is not bad. Can the index be links in the PDF ? 2011-05-18T20:44:00 Same with the TOC ? 2011-05-18T22:02:44 yes and no 2011-05-18T22:03:06 i don't think FOP can handle it -- which handles the docbook->xsl:fo conversion 2011-05-18T22:03:14 some of the commercial ones can 2011-05-18T22:03:28 the index is html links in the html version though 2011-05-18T22:03:41 kiwichris: i can make whatever changes we need to the pdf easily 2011-05-18T22:04:36 one of the nice things here is we can rid of a lot of the clutter in docs/ .. we can manage the documents as seperate items and then create 'merged' documents of various types.. easily 2011-05-18T22:04:53 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T22:08:56 *** ThePing has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T22:08:56 *** ThePing has left #rtems 2011-05-18T22:22:39 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-18T22:22:50 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-18T22:51:30 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-18T23:45:23 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-05-18T23:52:31 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T00:53:35 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T00:53:43 good morning 2011-05-19T01:01:56 morning 2011-05-19T01:07:52 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2011-05-19T01:49:31 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-05-19T02:16:16 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T04:41:03 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-19T05:30:35 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T07:35:53 *** qmor has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T07:35:54 *** qmor has left #rtems 2011-05-19T07:59:08 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T09:08:50 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T09:10:28 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T09:10:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-05-19T09:19:56 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-19T09:20:47 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T09:25:01 * DrJoel looks around 2011-05-19T09:37:44 *** sqm has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T09:42:17 *** sqm has quit IRC 2011-05-19T09:50:08 *** sqm has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T10:29:44 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2011-05-19T10:33:59 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-19T10:34:21 *** lj8175 has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T10:37:22 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T10:37:43 DrJoel:hi, joel 2011-05-19T10:39:07 zwj: hello .. how are things? 2011-05-19T10:39:43 i see the rtems-schedsim has been remove from tool dir 2011-05-19T10:40:03 and i am looking its build component 2011-05-19T10:40:26 is it the CVS head rtems-schedsim? 2011-05-19T10:40:34 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-19T10:41:07 no. there is another cvs module named rtems-schedsim. 2011-05-19T10:41:24 It adds one configure parameter over RTEMS --enable-rtemsdir=WHERE_IS_RTEMS 2011-05-19T10:44:39 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-19T10:45:01 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T10:45:22 but if you want to modify the rtems source code used by schedsim, but these code need not to be modified? how to solove this situation 2011-05-19T10:46:27 *** cssmith has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T10:46:55 for schedsim, the rtems source that is used is largely unchanged. For the pieces that are used and modified, there are small ifdefs. 2011-05-19T10:47:44 In the hypervisor case, if the code itself needs changing then we need to work that on a case by case basis. If it uses a subset of RTEMS and largely layers on top of that code, then this works great. 2011-05-19T10:49:51 yeah, from AIR document it said rtems is used as its hardware abstract layer, so how about the yangxi 's idea? 2011-05-19T10:50:00 port it as a rtems BSP 2011-05-19T10:52:13 will that make it easy to duplicate across multiple architectures? It might work if no RTEMS proper source is unchanged. 2011-05-19T10:52:19 Don't know details of code enough to answer 2011-05-19T10:56:28 nobody knows its details of code , so only wait for getting the code. now i am studying the build way of schedsim 2011-05-19T10:57:10 brb 2011-05-19T11:08:07 *** lj8175 has quit IRC 2011-05-19T11:08:59 *** sqm has quit IRC 2011-05-19T11:10:25 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-19T11:19:05 *** zwj has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T11:39:28 *** zwj has quit IRC 2011-05-19T13:45:03 DrJoel: rtbf32a is being re-installed? 2011-05-19T14:01:58 yes... when I walked by a few minutes ago, it had a progress bar on it 2011-05-19T14:04:32 great 2011-05-19T14:19:05 verm__: rtbf32a is now rtbf64d .. NIS is not setup. Anything you need on it before then, just email Jeff and myself 2011-05-19T14:37:03 ok 2011-05-19T14:37:22 ralph will setup nis? 2011-05-19T14:38:57 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T14:42:48 unless you beat him to it. LOL 2011-05-19T14:44:27 heh no thanks, i havn't used nis in a very long time.. it's ldap everywhere now 2011-05-19T14:45:31 Chris should be making an announcement on git soon. I know you and he have been chatting about it. 2011-05-19T15:02:26 yep 2011-05-19T15:02:46 i still need that list of other repos to convert.. i sent an email about it over the weekend.. 2011-05-19T15:07:19 I sent an email to Chris with it.. hold on and you will receive another one 2011-05-19T15:07:46 darkbeer, rtems, and ntp.. you have the best email domains! 2011-05-19T15:08:45 heh 2011-05-19T15:08:52 my other private email address is even better 2011-05-19T15:09:42 darkbeer is my developer email though, and i use it when registering places since i create a unique login for each 2011-05-19T15:09:53 it's interesting to see where my spam comes from i've registered at some large places 2011-05-19T15:10:04 only to have spam come to that address weeks/months later 2011-05-19T15:10:18 employees' selling email lists for $$$ usually 2011-05-19T15:46:30 * DrJoel is blowing out of here today.. tired and sick of it 2011-05-19T15:46:33 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2011-05-19T16:47:14 *** antgreen` has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T16:48:50 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2011-05-19T16:55:47 *** antgreen` has quit IRC 2011-05-19T17:13:22 *** dimonov has quit IRC 2011-05-19T17:18:41 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T17:21:01 *** dimonov has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T18:44:53 kiwichris: around? 2011-05-19T19:07:39 *** cssmith has left #rtems 2011-05-19T19:22:19 *** shayden has quit IRC 2011-05-19T20:06:14 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T20:18:17 verm__, yeah around briefly 2011-05-19T20:19:02 will you be around later? 2011-05-19T20:19:35 Yeah in about 3 hrs. I am here for 20minutes. 2011-05-19T20:20:56 ok, well i tried some builds last night and they all failed 2011-05-19T20:21:11 Of ? 2011-05-19T20:21:23 i'm wondering if it's a problem with the setup on rtbf64c, but it may be something else 2011-05-19T20:21:48 Was this with head ? 2011-05-19T20:22:06 yeah 2011-05-19T20:22:16 /home/amar/slave/full_arm_arm1136jfs_VANILLA/build/snapshot/c/src/../../cpukit/zlib/adler32.c:12:58: error: unknown type name 'z_off64_t' 2011-05-19T20:22:20 /home/amar/slave/full_arm_arm1136jfs_VANILLA/build/snapshot/c/src/../../cpukit/zlib/zutil.h:164:27: error: prototype declaration 2011-05-19T20:22:21 etc 2011-05-19T20:23:02 Interesting. I have not updated for a few days so I am not sure. 2011-05-19T20:24:21 converting from cvs->git has been a lot more annoying than i was expecting for incremental updates 2011-05-19T20:24:30 i wonder if it's screwing it up somehow i'll have to try again in a bit 2011-05-19T20:24:37 I am sure. 2011-05-19T20:24:41 I will try here. 2011-05-19T20:25:25 actually i think maybe it's the importer that's screwing up 2011-05-19T20:25:32 and the conversion happened between a cvs commit 2011-05-19T20:25:36 Looks like it. 2011-05-19T20:25:42 i ran this twice but it looks like it pulled the same changes, dammit 2011-05-19T20:26:01 i did it last night before i went to bed i'll look into it more in a bit 2011-05-19T20:26:32 Ok 2011-05-19T20:26:54 Looks like tool update. I will need to rebuild them 2011-05-19T20:29:28 Cannot see any zlib changed 2011-05-19T20:30:37 i was wondeting if it was something to do with rtbf64c beacuse all these builds use the same bootstrapped tarball from that machine 2011-05-19T20:30:40 i'll check it out again in a bit 2011-05-19T20:31:22 That should be fine. We release RTEMS with generated configure scripts. This is normal. 2011-05-19T21:14:51 *** sqm has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T21:16:47 ah i see why the base didn't change it's because the commits in the last few days have been to branches only 2011-05-19T22:17:19 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-05-19T22:29:52 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-05-19T22:46:18 *** xiangfu has quit IRC 2011-05-19T23:50:36 *** shayden has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T01:07:30 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2011-05-20T01:07:46 *** methril has quit IRC 2011-05-20T01:29:15 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T01:29:28 *** methril has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T01:59:04 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T01:59:04 *** arvind_khadri has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T02:07:39 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2011-05-20T02:19:21 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T02:19:26 good morning 2011-05-20T02:51:15 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2011-05-20T02:56:11 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T03:33:26 *** bazinski has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T03:40:51 *** xiangfu has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T05:11:41 *** sqm has quit IRC 2011-05-20T05:31:29 *** sqm has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T05:52:59 *** bazinski has quit IRC 2011-05-20T06:58:42 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2011-05-20T06:58:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2011-05-20T07:02:05 * DrJoel pops in for a few minutes before heading to OAR 2011-05-20T07:04:03 Hi Joel 2011-05-20T07:04:18 hey chris .. how are things? 2011-05-20T07:04:34 * DrJoel is actually in a suit and tie today.. Dr J's funeral is this afternoon 2011-05-20T07:04:59 I am very to sorry to hear this news. 2011-05-20T07:05:23 Thanks.. 2011-05-20T07:05:44 on to lighter things.. rtbf64d is up .. but only has 100baseT card.. that may explain some of network slowness 2011-05-20T07:06:07 I am not sure. 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