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2010-11-29T09:31:25 so your flash is actually a block device which can read and write blocks (hole blocks) 2010-11-29T09:31:27 ? 2010-11-29T09:32:08 yes, but I want the block size to be tunable by the filesystem, for example 2010-11-29T09:32:09 with the ioctl you can do whatever you want 2010-11-29T09:32:31 the block size is tunable for patitions of a block device 2010-11-29T09:32:38 logical disks 2010-11-29T09:32:51 why use the bdbuf layer? 2010-11-29T09:33:09 as I see it, it serves stricly no purpose in my case, and only makes code (and debugging) more complicated 2010-11-29T09:34:06 yes, this is not a MTD or UBI layer 2010-11-29T09:34:26 I have fundamentally nothing against it (and as you can see, I even wrote a SD card driver that uses it), it's just that it's inappropriate for NAND/NOR flash 2010-11-29T09:34:56 yes, that is also my opinion 2010-11-29T09:35:20 was this a SDHC driver? 2010-11-29T09:35:25 or via SPI? 2010-11-29T09:35:34 SDHC 2010-11-29T09:35:54 but i'm not done with it - it's read-only atm, and lacks locking 2010-11-29T09:36:03 i'll send a patch when it's finished 2010-11-29T09:36:55 hm, i need a SDHC driver too, i considered to use the one from FreeBSD 2010-11-29T09:37:20 atm it's not as complete as your SD SPI driver, but it worked with the cards I've tested it with 2010-11-29T09:37:56 why didn't you use the FreeBSD SDHC driver? 2010-11-29T09:38:33 I already had simple SD code that was faster to port 2010-11-29T09:38:54 ok 2010-11-29T09:39:14 but not as complete ... the SD spec is a total mess 2010-11-29T09:39:46 how can one think of such a protocol just to f*** read and write blocks to a dumb memory 2010-11-29T09:40:37 yes, if you look at the high capacitiy hacks, its a real joke 2010-11-29T09:41:22 so, yeah, maybe i'll look at the FreeBSD SDHC code :) 2010-11-29T09:41:43 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-11-29T09:45:20 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T09:47:16 *** mememe has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T10:03:06 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T10:12:25 *** lekernel has quit IRC 2010-11-29T10:16:09 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2010-11-29T10:24:39 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2010-11-29T10:35:17 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T11:12:30 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T12:29:41 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-11-29T12:48:46 *** rfw has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T12:49:55 *** lekernel_ has joined #rtems 2010-11-29T12:50:13 should I define RTEMS_STATUS_CHECKS_USE_PRINTK before including rtems/status-checks.h? 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Germany DJ by any chance ? 2010-11-30T03:57:30 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933975537 (Test Coverage HTML Improvements) 2010-11-30T03:57:31 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-11-30T03:58:10 Thomas assigned this name 2010-11-30T03:58:49 OK 2010-11-30T03:59:09 What is GCIBot ? 2010-11-30T03:59:43 its new, yesterday it was inactive 2010-11-30T04:00:13 It is juts RTEMS GCI or the whole program ? 2010-11-30T04:00:35 i don't know who started this bot 2010-11-30T04:00:45 sebhub, Can I ask a FreeBSD USB question ? 2010-11-30T04:00:52 not me 2010-11-30T04:00:58 kiwichris: one of the mentors of one of the organization 2010-11-30T04:01:00 wrote it 2010-11-30T04:01:07 and shared it with all other projects .. 2010-11-30T04:01:12 yes, just ask 2010-11-30T04:01:39 kapeels, thanks and nice. 2010-11-30T04:02:03 how does a root hub device get added to a device ? 2010-11-30T04:02:41 this will be added by the nexus device 2010-11-30T04:03:08 ./rtems/freebsd/rtems/rtems-bsd-nexus.c 2010-11-30T04:03:22 in the patch in Bugzilla ? 2010-11-30T04:03:28 ./rtems/freebsd/dev/usb/controller/ohci_lpc24xx.c:DRIVER_MODULE(ohci, nexus, ohci_driver, ohci_devclass, 0, 0); 2010-11-30T04:03:46 yes, it in the bugzilla tar file 2010-11-30T04:04:08 ./rtems/freebsd/rtems/rtems-bsd-autoconf.c 2010-11-30T04:04:10 Is this a fast or high speed host controller ? 2010-11-30T04:04:43 ohci 2010-11-30T04:04:55 so fast 2010-11-30T04:05:08 ehci works also 2010-11-30T04:05:39 I have looked at this one but I am not seeing the how to the root hub device gets added 2010-11-30T04:05:47 i use the normal FreeBSD device tree 2010-11-30T04:06:11 This is not for RTEMS 2010-11-30T04:06:32 the root bus will be initialized via a sysinit entry 2010-11-30T04:06:46 Ok 2010-11-30T04:06:53 and the sysinit is done by mi_startup() 2010-11-30T04:07:04 I do not have them or real 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#rtems 2010-12-01T01:40:22 good morning 2010-12-01T01:42:14 sebhub, hi 2010-12-01T01:50:49 sebhub, do you have a linker script example for _bsd_set_* ? 2010-12-01T01:51:52 I send you one by email 2010-12-01T01:52:01 Thanks 2010-12-01T01:54:34 sysctl is also supported (independent of the sysctl of the network stack) 2010-12-01T01:55:13 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T01:57:28 originally i disabled the sysctl and tuneables so save space, but for the network stack this didn't seem to be adequate 2010-12-01T02:01:51 *** mememe has quit IRC 2010-12-01T02:11:15 sebhub, I noticed you have turned off the __GNUCLIKE___SECTION off 2010-12-01T02:12:17 no, its all inside this section 2010-12-01T02:12:35 i added the _bsd prefix to not interfere with the network stack 2010-12-01T02:12:39 Ah yes. 2010-12-01T02:12:55 You removed the & from the BEGIN and LIMIT ? 2010-12-01T02:13:32 yes, this is a FreeBSD bug visible on PowerPC with small data area 2010-12-01T02:13:52 Ok. This broke me. 2010-12-01T02:14:07 Well I got warnings 2010-12-01T02:14:20 what for warnings? 2010-12-01T02:14:25 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-01T02:14:59 The users of the macro want ** and the array has * so & gives **. 2010-12-01T02:15:13 I hope that made sense :) 2010-12-01T02:15:35 *** mememe has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T02:16:30 which file and line? 2010-12-01T02:17:01 Inside mi_startup 2010-12-01T02:17:05 init_main.c 2010-12-01T02:21:08 ok, I need to fix this warning 2010-12-01T02:21:31 I just but back the & in the linker_set.h 2010-12-01T02:22:23 hm, did you remove the []? 2010-12-01T02:22:56 in BEGIN and LIMIT ? 2010-12-01T02:23:02 yes 2010-12-01T02:23:12 Did not have any !! 2010-12-01T02:23:15 SET_DECLARE 2010-12-01T02:23:54 Ah ok I may have removed something 2010-12-01T02:24:02 It could be me. 2010-12-01T02:25:01 the [] is important on powerpc with eabi and small data area 2010-12-01T02:25:15 Sure. That would work. 2010-12-01T02:29:56 #define SET_DECLARE(set, ptype) \ 2010-12-01T02:29:58 extern ptype *__CONCAT(_bsd__start_set_,set) []; \ 2010-12-01T02:29:59 extern ptype *__CONCAT(_bsd__stop_set_,set) [] 2010-12-01T02:30:05 this fixes the warning 2010-12-01T03:37:56 sebhub, where is _bsd_nexus_devices allocated 2010-12-01T03:45:20 rtems/freebsd/machine/rtems-bsd-sysinit.h 2010-12-01T03:46:10 DRIVER_MODULE(nexus, root, nexus_driver, nexus_devclass, 0, 0); 2010-12-01T03:46:27 this happens via the module mechanic 2010-12-01T03:47:18 please have a look at the usb-demo from the bugzilla (see file usb-sysinit.h) 2010-12-01T03:48:05 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2010-12-01T03:51:51 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T03:52:45 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T03:54:04 sebhub, rman is used in subr_bus.c 2010-12-01T03:54:39 there are some blocks disabled via #ifdef __rtems__ 2010-12-01T03:54:46 Ok 2010-12-01T03:54:48 #ifndef 2010-12-01T03:55:47 Ah ok. I do not have an RTEMS compiler so will change it 2010-12-01T03:56:03 you should define __rtems__ 2010-12-01T03:56:43 Yeap 2010-12-01T03:58:29 kiwichris: got access today.. i'll start setting up buildbot 2010-12-01T03:58:46 verm__, cool 2010-12-01T03:59:39 oh, another bot ;-) 2010-12-01T04:00:26 sebhub, this is a nice one that will do builds and run tests 2010-12-01T04:01:15 sebhub, I can see _bdm_nexus_devices but no actual variable just references 2010-12-01T04:01:29 I have the 2010-11-19 patch 2010-12-01T04:02:09 rtems/freebsd/rtems/rtems-bsd-nexus.c 2010-12-01T04:02:18 here: DRIVER_MODULE(nexus, root, nexus_driver, nexus_devclass, 0, 0); 2010-12-01T04:02:43 this will make nexus a child of root 2010-12-01T04:03:08 I see the code that uses the variable but I cannot see where it is declared 2010-12-01T04:03:23 in your application you have to reference this module descriptor to pull in the nexus device 2010-12-01T04:03:37 Ah that is the bit I was missing. 2010-12-01T04:03:53 Is this in the demo ? 2010-12-01T04:04:19 if you have the module in your executable, then it will put an entry into the module linker set und this will trigger the registration 2010-12-01T04:04:26 yes, in the usb-demo 2010-12-01T04:04:40 I will take a look. 2010-12-01T04:05:17 this is a bit confusing, but the freebsd kernel is only a set of modules and not a library 2010-12-01T04:05:32 it works with the linker set indirection 2010-12-01T04:05:40 Yes and I like it. Piecing it together can be complex 2010-12-01T04:06:03 This is enough for me today. See you tomorrow. 2010-12-01T04:06:08 kiwichris: are the rtems servers running off of someones dsl line? 2010-12-01T04:06:10 cu 2010-12-01T04:06:38 It is the OAR Corp service. 2010-12-01T04:07:02 Cannot remember the speed. It is not too bad but performance comes and goes and we are not sure why 2010-12-01T04:07:07 right, but is it actually colocated at a hosting facility or on a dsl line? 2010-12-01T04:07:09 yes 2010-12-01T04:07:13 it's insanely slow for me right now 2010-12-01T04:07:16 unbelivably slow 2010-12-01T04:07:17 On a DSL line 2010-12-01T04:07:24 Yeap it can happen. 2010-12-01T04:07:30 Checking munim 2010-12-01T04:07:32 Checking munin 2010-12-01T04:08:26 kiwichris: am i OK for installing packages for rtbf32a? 2010-12-01T04:08:44 Have you got root ? 2010-12-01T04:09:06 i'm not added to sudo 2010-12-01T04:09:14 if that's how you typically do root 2010-12-01T04:09:24 Can you send me a list and I will install them. 2010-12-01T04:09:31 they're manual installs 2010-12-01T04:09:39 i can give you the tarballs 2010-12-01T04:09:46 What packages ? 2010-12-01T04:09:56 Put them on the machine and send me the link 2010-12-01T04:10:13 buildbot + it's dependencies.. twisted we can do via yum 2010-12-01T04:10:15 alright 2010-12-01T04:10:29 so buildbot is not an RPM ? 2010-12-01T04:10:43 beats me never checked 2010-12-01T04:11:29 only ancient versions 2010-12-01T04:12:05 it's fine actually i'll use the devel version of buildbot 2010-12-01T04:12:10 let me sort out the other deps though hold on 2010-12-01T04:12:25 Is buildbot master on rtems.org ? 2010-12-01T04:12:42 no i'll be putting that on rtbf32a 2010-12-01T04:12:48 Joel and I where wondering distcc as a way to handle bulds 2010-12-01T04:12:58 Where is the http access ? 2010-12-01T04:13:12 probably buildbot.rtems.org and we'll hang that off of rtems.org 2010-12-01T04:13:18 using mod_proxy in apache 2010-12-01T04:13:38 Have you talked to Joel and Jeff about this ? 2010-12-01T04:14:34 I know rtems.org is UPS'ed. Not sure about rtbf32a 2010-12-01T04:15:03 if everything is not ups'd then there's no real point in the master having that :) 2010-12-01T04:15:05 and yes joel is aware 2010-12-01T04:15:13 Good point. 2010-12-01T04:15:17 Great. 2010-12-01T04:15:38 i wonder if i can find you guys some cheap hosting in georgia 2010-12-01T04:16:44 I suspect the yum repo and tools build bits would make this complex 2010-12-01T04:17:25 what do you mean? 2010-12-01T04:18:07 Ralf pushes large tool yum repo for a wide range of hosts and architecture. 2010-12-01T04:18:17 This is how users get the tool sets 2010-12-01T04:18:21 oh 2010-12-01T04:18:36 right well we can automate that most likely, and test them as well before shipping it out 2010-12-01T04:18:53 after rtems itself is working we can look into that if ralph is interested 2010-12-01T04:21:05 There is a buildbot.noarch package in yum 2010-12-01T04:21:15 i'm going to use the git repo 2010-12-01T04:21:30 Ah ok. 2010-12-01T04:21:43 Can this be anywhere on disk ? 2010-12-01T04:22:11 well there's a special setup method to use the git repo directly i'll use that 2010-12-01T04:22:23 Ok 2010-12-01T04:22:28 i'm also going to install mysql in my homedir and run it that way 2010-12-01T04:22:41 Where is your home ? 2010-12-01T04:22:48 /users/amar 2010-12-01T04:23:06 is it nfs mounted or local ? 2010-12-01T04:23:24 It is mounted via nfs 2010-12-01T04:23:28 hmm yeah it's nfs i didn't realise 2010-12-01T04:23:30 nuts 2010-12-01T04:24:14 kiwichris: i need a working mysql install (5.x) twisted and Jinja2 2010-12-01T04:24:26 and py-mysql 2010-12-01T04:24:59 Maybe you should use rtbf64a where your home is local 2010-12-01T04:27:54 I am off. cya 2010-12-01T04:27:55 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2010-12-01T05:24:05 *** aantn has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T05:27:29 *** aantn has quit IRC 2010-12-01T05:28:35 *** aantn has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T05:31:35 *** aantn has quit IRC 2010-12-01T05:32:18 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T05:32:49 *** aantn has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T05:33:05 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-01T05:52:31 *** aantn has quit IRC 2010-12-01T05:53:46 *** aantn has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T05:58:32 *** aantn has quit IRC 2010-12-01T07:03:29 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T07:34:11 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T07:39:51 *** aantn has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T08:04:14 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T08:09:16 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T08:17:20 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T08:17:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2010-12-01T08:17:27 aanjhan: are you awake? 2010-12-01T08:17:57 aanjhan: Can you help http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933975334? He is trying the GSOC hello world on Ubuntu 2010-12-01T08:34:41 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T09:04:32 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T09:26:55 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-01T09:35:17 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T09:53:06 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T10:01:24 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T10:05:19 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128940794594 (BSP Wiki Page for PSIM (GDB PowerPC)) 2010-12-01T10:23:11 *** aantn has quit IRC 2010-12-01T10:31:16 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2010-12-01T10:57:07 DrJoel: yes\ 2010-12-01T10:58:02 aanjhan: thank you. I thought it would be interesting to see how a Code-In student could handle the gsoc hello world. That will tell us if the instruction are good enough. Lowering the entry bar is always important 2010-12-01T10:58:34 DrJoel: ok. reading the task 2010-12-01T10:58:39 and his problem 2010-12-01T10:59:12 DrJoel: and probably I can go through the exercise with him 2010-12-01T10:59:24 I have a working rtems toolchain setup in my personal laptop 2010-12-01T10:59:41 but it should be a good idea to run through the same on my work laptop and see if we are missing something 2010-12-01T11:00:57 if it turns out to be too hard for the difficulty level, we can kill this task and create one that is harder for them 2010-12-01T11:01:06 harder ==> more points for them 2010-12-01T11:03:10 Since my work laptop already has a whole bunch of libs installed 2010-12-01T11:03:39 its a good idea to create a virtual box image of a fresh install and see how rtems installation goes 2010-12-01T11:04:12 so that I dont miss out on some libs that might not be present on a fresh install but I have installed it already for some other purposes 2010-12-01T11:10:19 agreed. Clean machines tend to point out dependencies that "normal" machines hide 2010-12-01T12:06:54 *** lekernel has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T12:09:32 how am I supposed to stat() instead of rtems_io_lookup_name() as http://www.rtems.org/onlinedocs/doxygen/cpukit/html/io_8h.html suggests? 2010-12-01T12:09:44 in struct stat, there is 2010-12-01T12:09:46 dev_t st_dev; /* ID of device containing file */ 2010-12-01T12:10:16 and nothing else 2010-12-01T12:10:43 ah, or is it st_rdev? 2010-12-01T12:10:45 sorry, misread 2010-12-01T12:23:20 lekernel: OK? rtems_io_lookup_name() uses stat() if you need details 2010-12-01T12:23:35 yup. stat() works 2010-12-01T12:23:51 I just read too fast and missed the fact there was a st_rdev field in the structure 2010-12-01T12:24:30 rtems_io_lookup_name was removed in 4.11, no? 2010-12-01T12:25:27 I don't remember but don't think so. It is just not reentrant. 2010-12-01T12:34:46 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-01T13:06:05 to call into my device driver using rtems_io_control, can I set iop to NULL in the request if my device driver doesn't use it? 2010-12-01T13:06:12 if not, what am I supposed to put in it? :) 2010-12-01T13:06:22 (http://www.rtems.org/onlinedocs/doxygen/cpukit/html/structrtems__libio__ioctl__args__t.html) 2010-12-01T13:11:21 You should be able to do that. Is it getting trapped by a NULL check somewhere? 2010-12-01T13:11:36 but normally you open the device by name, and use ioctl() via the filesystem 2010-12-01T13:11:41 just like posix 2010-12-01T13:12:56 *** Holycry has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T13:13:38 can I use the posix calls from within a filesystem itself? won't it bomb if the filesystem calls itself? 2010-12-01T13:14:12 Mr. Sherrill could you regive me the task titled: Test Coverage HTML Improvements, I accidentally hit the withdraw button 2010-12-01T13:15:08 I'm a bit cautious about calling open() and creating new file descriptors from within a filesystem... 2010-12-01T13:16:01 but maybe it just works :) 2010-12-01T13:19:10 Holycry: can't you reclaim it? 2010-12-01T13:20:15 lekernel: :D 2010-12-01T13:21:11 Holycry: If Melange won't let you reclaim it you will probably want to pop into #gsoc and see if Sverre can help. He may have to undo something by hand 2010-12-01T13:21:34 No I can reclaim it, I just need you to give me the task I reclaimed it 2010-12-01T13:25:12 Weird.. I didn't get any email updates on that. You should have it now. 2010-12-01T13:25:17 Does the task make sense? 2010-12-01T13:26:13 So you want the columns 2 through 4 to be in the header right? 2010-12-01T13:26:55 yes. But the table is generated by a shell script. 2010-12-01T13:27:25 From the rtems-testing CVS module right? 2010-12-01T13:27:59 right.. rtems-coverage/generate_coverage_html 2010-12-01T13:28:29 if yuo grab a few tarballs from the coverage directory on the ftp site, you will have enough test data to run the script. 2010-12-01T13:34:13 Ok I'll work on it, thanks for the help, if I need more I'll talk to you later, thanks! 2010-12-01T13:39:25 *** Holycry has quit IRC 2010-12-01T14:19:55 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T14:52:41 ok, i'm able to create directories on the flash filesystem (which are correctly stored on flash and retrieved later) :) 2010-12-01T14:53:02 I should only need to finish that mad filesystem glue now... 2010-12-01T14:53:06 lekernel, congradulations 2010-12-01T14:53:34 lekernel, have to managed to figure out the eval path code ? 2010-12-01T14:53:47 ... have you .... 2010-12-01T14:54:33 the normal eval_path yes (and I hate it) 2010-12-01T14:54:40 eval_for_make not yet 2010-12-01T14:54:54 lekernel, join the club :) 2010-12-01T14:55:17 Looking at that code is like a visit to the dentist 2010-12-01T14:56:01 Is the fs code in RTEMS's tree or outside as a 3rd party package ? 2010-12-01T14:56:24 it's outside - YAFFS is plain GPL (without linking exception) 2010-12-01T14:56:31 Ok 2010-12-01T14:56:53 https://github.com/lekernel/rtems-yaffs2 2010-12-01T15:01:13 kiwichris: cut and pasted some text for you to review 2010-12-01T15:14:50 DrJoel, looks great 2010-12-01T15:15:12 thanks. 2010-12-01T15:15:28 inch by inch 2010-12-01T15:15:39 yep.. it will happen. :-D 2010-12-01T15:27:23 kiwichris: can you install mysql (atleast 5), jinja2 and twisted on rtbf32a? 2010-12-01T15:28:31 Sure 2010-12-01T15:28:35 thanks 2010-12-01T15:28:47 DrJoel: where are the rtems servers located? i noticed it's on a dsl connection.. 2010-12-01T15:32:25 verm__: they are not on a DSL connection. We do have VOIP from the same provider though 2010-12-01T15:32:43 they aren't? so they're colocated? 2010-12-01T15:32:56 wow, i wonder why the lag is so intense 2010-12-01T15:33:26 verm__, installed, how-ever jinja2 is an fc12 package and I have no idea why that would have happened 2010-12-01T15:33:49 so what does that mean? 2010-12-01T15:33:59 it's not installed? 2010-12-01T15:34:21 verm__, it is installed, but yum pulled in an fc12 package. I will ask Ralf. 2010-12-01T15:34:42 verm__, the answer will take a few hours ... when he gets up 2010-12-01T15:34:44 rtems.info is on a cable connection (in my basement) but rtems.org/.com is on a 6Mbps bidirectional link. Don't know the technology. rtbf machines are out a 2nd GiGE NIC through a dedicated switch to lab in next room 2010-12-01T15:34:47 *** rokka has quit IRC 2010-12-01T15:35:58 verm__: the servers are in Huntsville. 2010-12-01T15:36:19 oh, hmm 6mb bidirectional... 2010-12-01T15:36:30 are you guys using QoS to ensure ssh sessions have the highest priority? 2010-12-01T15:36:42 doing iftop, I don't see much traffic 2010-12-01T15:36:58 it's not so bad now, last night was unusable 2010-12-01T15:37:03 verm__: no.. email a link to doing that 2010-12-01T15:37:23 hmm i only know how to do it using pf really.. what firewall are you using? 2010-12-01T15:37:27 verm__: at what time? Ralf complains also and we haven't pinned down what is happening 2010-12-01T15:37:29 *** rokka has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T15:37:38 Adtran dedicated box.. 2010-12-01T15:38:01 I also look and could not see why 2010-12-01T15:38:18 right now, yahoo and msn are slowly crawling us but very slowly.. 2010-12-01T15:38:48 it's probably a twofold issue, partly the isps fault and link conjestion 2010-12-01T15:38:54 DrJoel: what model of adtran device? 2010-12-01T15:39:28 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T15:39:31 we could also do this on the rtems.org machine too since it's the gateway for the lab no? 2010-12-01T15:39:41 or do you have vlans setup? 2010-12-01T15:40:01 verm__, do you mean buildbot ? 2010-12-01T15:40:12 kiwichris: no QoS 2010-12-01T15:40:15 Ok 2010-12-01T15:40:23 so we can put priority on traffic 2010-12-01T15:40:28 Nice 2010-12-01T15:40:30 ie, ssh -> http -> ftp 2010-12-01T15:40:31 etc 2010-12-01T15:40:44 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2010-12-01T15:40:49 well ACK -> ssh -> http -> ftp -> everything else perhaps 2010-12-01T15:40:56 verm__: pm'ed model 2010-12-01T15:40:59 maybe mail with ftp 2010-12-01T15:41:05 got it 2010-12-01T15:41:11 yeah either way ssh first :) 2010-12-01T15:41:44 verm__: yes.. rtems.org is gateway to lab .. QoS is possible if you send instructions to jeff who set the account up 2010-12-01T15:41:52 or tell Chris how to do it :-D 2010-12-01T15:42:15 well as you know, i use every unix except linux so i'm not quite sure on how to do it 2010-12-01T15:42:26 however i do know people i can ask.. i will do that tonight 2010-12-01T15:42:41 I have no idea 2010-12-01T15:42:43 thanks.. we are always learning 2010-12-01T15:42:44 DrJoel: that adran device is old and crusty.. we'll do it off of rtems.org 2010-12-01T15:43:02 if we can get a freebsd box with pf i'll have it running in about 15 mins :) 2010-12-01T15:45:59 I've done the same for my kids' school with a discarded computer and an old fedora 2010-12-01T15:47:19 yeah i stopped using hardware based gateways many years ago it's not worth it anymore 2010-12-01T15:49:34 verm__, by pf do you mean pfsense ? 2010-12-01T15:50:03 no, pf the firewall 2010-12-01T15:50:11 Ok 2010-12-01T15:50:22 pfsense is an all-in-one gateway solution 2010-12-01T15:50:28 like m0n0wall 2010-12-01T15:50:39 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ 2010-12-01T15:51:00 thanks 2010-12-01T15:52:25 * kiwichris will be back soon 2010-12-01T16:03:20 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T16:15:04 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2010-12-01T16:19:37 nice... there are still bugs in this damn path evaluation 2010-12-01T16:20:12 lekernel, did you take a look at the RFS one. I spent a while getting this one corret 2010-12-01T16:25:08 how to find the current directory node? rtems_filesystem_current.node_access doesn't work reliably 2010-12-01T16:25:30 (and why do I have to deal with that at all in my filesystem to start with) 2010-12-01T16:26:11 yes, I did look at RFS, it works very differently than YAFFS 2010-12-01T16:26:36 lekernel, it is historical. It started with IMFS which as written to help testing and no one has taken on changing it 2010-12-01T16:26:58 I mean just the eval path code in the RFS 2010-12-01T16:27:25 when the eval path function gets called, does pathloc contain the current directory? 2010-12-01T16:27:36 and should I use that instead of rtems_filesystem_current? 2010-12-01T16:28:07 No you cannot do this. A file system has no current path, a user does, or in RTEMS a task may 2010-12-01T16:28:32 I assume you mean CWD 2010-12-01T16:28:55 Just checking the code. 2010-12-01T16:29:42 the thing is - when I'm in the shell, and type "mkdir blah" 2010-12-01T16:30:22 that stupid retard calls eval_path with "blah" in pathname - up to me to figure out what the current directory is... 2010-12-01T16:30:59 Ah yes in the that case pathloc is the current evaluation point. 2010-12-01T16:31:06 so, I used rtems_filesystem_current to deal with those cases, but it doesn't work all the time 2010-12-01T16:31:32 Just looking for the answer 2010-12-01T16:33:34 The file systems upper layer calls rtems_filesystem_get_start_loc to find the current location and loads pathloc. 2010-12-01T16:33:52 This code either gets the root or the current. 2010-12-01T16:34:31 ah, ok 2010-12-01T16:34:33 cool 2010-12-01T16:34:34 This part of the code is broken because it is not thread safe. I think you find somewhere the "current" can be a task variable and can be switched 2010-12-01T16:34:39 this simplifies things a bit 2010-12-01T16:35:03 ah, and it fixed my bug :) 2010-12-01T16:35:04 thanks 2010-12-01T16:35:23 So when a user does a 'cd' to your file system the eval path will fill a pathloc in with some private data you can use. 2010-12-01T16:35:42 This ends up in current and you use it again 2010-12-01T16:36:24 In the RFS I made sure I could hold any needed data in the pathloc and removed the need to allocate memory and free it when the pathloc is not needed. This is a performance win. 2010-12-01T16:38:15 To finish there are many race conditions in the FS upper layer and this should be fixed. When this happens I hope eval path can be abstracted away from the file systems 2010-12-01T16:38:38 heading home.. night 2010-12-01T16:38:41 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2010-12-01T16:38:44 that's would be a good idea :) 2010-12-01T16:38:55 what's the current status of this work btw? 2010-12-01T16:39:21 An example of a race condition is mkdir -> mknod -> gets current, preempted and current is removed 2010-12-01T16:39:43 ah, yes, I was wondering what was supposed to happen in those cases 2010-12-01T16:39:45 It is a big job because all existing file systems would need to be changed. 2010-12-01T16:39:48 so, it just breaks? 2010-12-01T16:39:53 Yeap 2010-12-01T16:40:08 :| 2010-12-01T16:40:28 We are single process and not multi-user which helps and I suppose partly why this area is not thread safe 2010-12-01T16:40:54 Most applications tend to handle this at upper layers. This is no excuse. We do this properly 2010-12-01T16:41:04 * lekernel thankfully doesn't do heavy file I/O... 2010-12-01T16:41:04 We should do this .... 2010-12-01T16:41:44 If we could get community funding this size task could be performed. 2010-12-01T16:42:16 Sebastian and I have been cleanly up the file system. The bdbuf was a major effort and now that is stable and functionally complete 2010-12-01T16:42:16 well, maybe if I sell a lot of devices :) 2010-12-01T16:42:38 lekernel, great and the best of luck 2010-12-01T16:43:50 I hope this helps you understand the history and the constraints that exists 2010-12-01T16:44:28 I would love to change it but we also need a better device model for hot swap buses and child devices on buses 2010-12-01T19:37:15 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T19:48:06 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2010-12-01T19:55:56 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2010-12-01T20:19:27 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T21:11:01 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-01T21:37:08 *** mememe has quit IRC 2010-12-01T22:35:25 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-01T23:51:21 *** projectgus has left #rtems 2010-12-02T00:43:05 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T01:27:48 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-02T01:48:56 *** mememe has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T01:53:53 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T01:54:11 good morning 2010-12-02T02:01:20 *** mememe has quit IRC 2010-12-02T02:16:20 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T03:25:49 *** methril has quit IRC 2010-12-02T03:31:40 *** methril has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T04:01:10 *** mememe has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T04:33:56 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-02T04:36:38 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-12-02T05:38:36 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2010-12-02T07:03:06 *** lekernel_ has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T07:03:10 *** lekernel has quit IRC 2010-12-02T07:45:07 *** lekernel_ is now known as lekernel 2010-12-02T08:45:10 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T08:45:10 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T09:16:58 *** Holycry has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T09:17:50 *** Holycry has left #rtems 2010-12-02T09:20:09 *** dr__house` has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T09:20:09 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-02T09:20:28 *** dr__house` is now known as dr__house 2010-12-02T10:04:22 *** methril_ has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T10:05:40 *** methril has quit IRC 2010-12-02T10:24:37 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2010-12-02T10:39:05 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-02T11:00:51 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T11:17:23 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T11:20:36 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T11:32:24 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-02T11:32:29 *** dr__house` has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T11:32:29 *** dr__house` has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T11:37:22 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-02T11:44:37 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2010-12-02T12:05:08 *** kapeels has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T12:26:40 *** dr__house` has quit IRC 2010-12-02T12:51:49 *** kapeels has quit IRC 2010-12-02T13:09:30 most of yaffs2 works now :) 2010-12-02T13:09:54 except some bugs with that retarded eval_path and a few missing bits 2010-12-02T13:10:53 eg deleting files with full path (instead of using the current directory) triggers some bug 2010-12-02T13:12:20 but at least I have something somehow usable 2010-12-02T13:13:22 btw speaking about awful rtems problems, the ftpd doesn't handle filenames with spaces in them... 2010-12-02T13:19:35 *** dr__house` has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T13:19:35 *** dr__house` has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T13:22:13 *** methril__ has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T13:23:10 *** methril_ has quit IRC 2010-12-02T13:43:46 *** DrJoel has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T13:43:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrJoel 2010-12-02T13:54:00 *** methril__ has quit IRC 2010-12-02T13:54:34 *** methril__ has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T15:11:55 *** Holycry has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T15:16:27 Mr. Sherrill for my task if you remember (Test Coverage HTML Improvements( that's the title)) for columns 2 through 4, Do you want, when they are all the same, to say "constant" at the header, or say exactly what they are suppose to say, such as if they were all yes, just have the header on top say the topic/title of that column then say (yes)? 2010-12-02T15:17:49 to say in English what the code means 2010-12-02T15:18:56 Something like ... sparc/erc32-Os, POSIX enabled, Development enabled (OsPD) 2010-12-02T15:20:10 Does that make sense 2010-12-02T15:24:14 Oh so for the title you just want it to say sparc/erc32-Os, POSIX enabled, Development enabled (OsPD), and if so does that mean you want me to remove columns 2 through 4 completely or do you want it to check if those columns are constant first and if they are then remove them? 2010-12-02T15:25:47 *** dr__house` is now known as dr__house 2010-12-02T15:30:13 *** kristianpaul has quit IRC 2010-12-02T15:30:37 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T15:30:37 *** kristianpaul has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T15:36:20 Mr. Sherrill? 2010-12-02T15:36:38 lol: thanks to this wonderful filesystem evaluation infrastructure, any filename longer than IMFS_NAME_MAX on any filesystem will cause problems if the root is IMFS 2010-12-02T15:36:40 DrJoel: do you think thats a bit too much a task (rtems toolset Ubuntu + hello World) ? I think the wiki page is not clear enough 2010-12-02T15:37:02 DrJoel: I made some changes toay to that page 2010-12-02T15:37:23 DrJoel: will modify it better tomorrow. I have a review to finish now. Let me know your views on the task. 2010-12-02T15:37:27 that is, 32 2010-12-02T15:37:43 Holycry: you can call him by his nick 2010-12-02T15:38:10 Holycry: just enter "Dr" and press tab. It shoul auto-complete on a decent irc client 2010-12-02T15:38:23 dr 2010-12-02T15:38:33 Holycry: hehe 2010-12-02T15:38:38 Holycry: capital D :P 2010-12-02T15:38:47 DrJoel: Oh so for the title you just want it to say sparc/erc32-Os, POSIX enabled, Development enabled (OsPD), and if so does that mean you want me to remove columns 2 through 4 completely or do you want it to check if those columns are constant first and if they are then remove them? 2010-12-02T15:38:51 haha thanks 2010-12-02T15:39:01 aanjhan: no that would mess up because of my nick :P 2010-12-02T15:39:37 oooooh someone from penn is around 2010-12-02T15:41:09 aanjhan: If the task expires, I may recreate it for him at a higher difficulty level for more credit 2010-12-02T15:41:25 :) 2010-12-02T15:41:28 DrJoel: good evening 2010-12-02T15:41:43 aanjhan: heya :) 2010-12-02T15:42:25 Holycry: You have to edit the shell script (e.g. program) that generates those tables. For each table, those columns are constant because the program generated them that way. At one point, it was a single long table and it made sense for the columns to be there. 2010-12-02T15:47:13 DrJoel: i started preparing my qemu-lm32 patch for upstream merging, still some things todo 2010-12-02T15:53:40 DrJoel: he is working and is helping in refining that OLD wiki page :-) 2010-12-02T15:53:43 So am not complaining. 2010-12-02T16:02:18 aanjhan: I think it is a good thing.. just maybe harder than what the task was intended to be. So probably need to find a way to move him to a special one when this one expires 2010-12-02T16:02:18 mwalle: great! 2010-12-02T16:03:17 DrJoel: to whom did you talked about the merging? 2010-12-02T16:10:00 qemu powerpc maintainer 2010-12-02T16:10:34 would have to look up his name 2010-12-02T16:11:14 alex graf? 2010-12-02T16:12:51 yep!! 2010-12-02T16:39:51 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T16:49:22 *** DrJoel has quit IRC 2010-12-02T17:36:36 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T17:51:46 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-02T18:05:52 *** Holycry has quit IRC 2010-12-02T18:59:03 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T21:26:05 *** christopher has joined #rtems 2010-12-02T22:13:40 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T00:02:19 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2010-12-03T01:37:10 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T01:37:15 good morning 2010-12-03T05:45:52 *** kiwichris has quit IRC 2010-12-03T07:02:47 *** lekernel_ has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T07:03:35 *** lekernel has quit IRC 2010-12-03T07:03:41 *** lekernel_ is now known as lekernel 2010-12-03T08:11:53 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:01:01 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:01:01 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:35:02 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:40:54 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T09:42:44 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:42:44 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:55:27 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T09:56:09 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T09:56:09 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T10:42:31 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2010-12-03T11:45:51 *** Holycry has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T11:52:18 *** Holycry has quit IRC 2010-12-03T12:04:07 I think i asked this before, but anway,, 2010-12-03T12:04:18 What's the min amount of memory to boot rtems? 2010-12-03T12:07:35 ok seems at least lm32 works with 1Mb 2010-12-03T12:07:38 MB* 2010-12-03T12:13:34 kristianpaul: I think it works on smaller systems as well. If I am not mistaken it might run on something as low as 64kB 2010-12-03T12:13:58 kristianpaul: but I don't know what architecture/BSP that is and I am not even sure about the size 2010-12-03T12:16:17 dr__house: it is lm32 2010-12-03T12:16:27 ok i can get 64kB 2010-12-03T12:17:16 dr__house: it was developed by Fallenou in last GSoc 2010-12-03T12:17:19 kristianpaul: again, I am not too sure about it. And I don't know where I can check the correctness of this information 2010-12-03T12:18:31 sure i understand 2010-12-03T12:20:15 kristianpaul: oh well, does this mean it can run on 16kB http://www.rtems.com/wiki/index.php/AVRTest? It says the non volatile EEPROM flash memory on AVR is 16kB. 2010-12-03T12:22:12 hmm hard to believe, i dont see too much informatio 2010-12-03T12:22:30 kristianpaul: ok, it runs on 512kB on RTL22xx http://www.rtems.com/wiki/index.php/Rtl22xx 2010-12-03T13:06:00 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T13:13:31 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T13:13:31 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T13:27:07 *** kiwichris has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T13:32:57 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T13:33:04 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T13:33:04 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T13:49:35 * kiwichris waves to lekernel 2010-12-03T13:49:57 hi kiwichris 2010-12-03T13:50:17 lekernel, well done on the YAFFS port 2010-12-03T13:53:53 lekernel, does your port make any upstream changes to YAFFS ? 2010-12-03T13:54:27 very minor ones 2010-12-03T13:54:48 Will those be sent upstream ? 2010-12-03T13:55:31 trying to 2010-12-03T13:55:43 Great. 2010-12-03T13:56:07 Can I raise a small issue with about a comment in the RTEMS port of the code. 2010-12-03T13:56:18 :) 2010-12-03T13:58:56 can't see which one :p 2010-12-03T13:59:16 I am looking for it. It was sent to me :) 2010-12-03T14:01:13 I like the YAFFS solution. The need to pay is kind of counter open source but for those that need a solution it provides one and that is ok with me. 2010-12-03T14:03:51 lekernel, the ycb_eval_path function 2010-12-03T14:04:38 lekernel, I know you and everyone else hates the eval path code but does this extend to all of the RTEMS file system ? 2010-12-03T14:05:20 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T14:12:56 lekernel, on line 358 of rtems.c should that be "return *pathloc->ops->evalpath ..." ? 2010-12-03T14:14:59 you mean, to execute the function? 2010-12-03T14:15:06 both syntaxes are equivalent 2010-12-03T14:15:26 you can do (*function_pointer)(...) or simply function_pointer(...) 2010-12-03T14:15:52 just wandered off the page and now going back 2010-12-03T14:16:18 Hang on 2010-12-03T14:16:33 (comment) better now? :p 2010-12-03T14:16:50 Many thanks. 2010-12-03T14:17:09 btw if this filesystem refactoring happens you really should have a look at the FUSE API 2010-12-03T14:17:12 simple and effective 2010-12-03T14:17:16 Yes it must be. I was comparing functions and given an int is returned 2010-12-03T14:17:28 maybe it incurs some memory management overhead, but it's worth it imo 2010-12-03T14:17:37 I have and that is a great idea. I had not thought of that 2010-12-03T14:17:55 and if malloc is that slow (?) perhaps you can simply keep a pool of pre-allocated buffer at hand 2010-12-03T14:18:20 The RFS is designed to be taken from RTEMS and glued under things like fuse 2010-12-03T14:18:52 why not make a FUSE-like API the standard for all filesystems? 2010-12-03T14:18:59 That the core of the bdbuf layer. I understand the bdbuf and YAFFS not fitting 2010-12-03T14:19:01 it's already well known and well documented 2010-12-03T14:19:11 (and well designed) 2010-12-03T14:19:21 Good idea. I will take a closer look. 2010-12-03T14:19:45 I haven't checked out how FUSE handles race conditions, though 2010-12-03T14:19:52 We also have a USB stack port from FreeBSD (PR 1601) and that has mass storage support 2010-12-03T14:20:04 I have not looked at the vfs glue it uses. 2010-12-03T14:20:53 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fuse/ 2010-12-03T14:21:58 Because RTEMS is a threaded single process we are a kind of user space. 2010-12-03T14:22:14 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T14:22:41 yeah, maybe that could even ease the porting of userspace filesystems designed for FUSE 2010-12-03T14:22:48 I want my sshfs :) 2010-12-03T14:23:01 That is what I was wondering. 2010-12-03T14:23:19 I have ported SSL to rtems so the bits are slowly coming 2010-12-03T14:24:04 The memory management is always an issue because we run in some small and slow devices. 2010-12-03T14:24:32 The RFS is designed to run in a slow (50Mhz) processor 2010-12-03T14:24:58 sure, but string related operations to handle paths and filenames operate on rather small strings, no? 2010-12-03T14:25:16 I don't think that could hog even a 50MHz CPU 2010-12-03T14:25:21 Completely agree. I was just looking at fuse 2010-12-03T14:25:56 There is no excuse for eval path. It should be called eval_pain rather than eval_path 2010-12-03T14:26:14 or even evil_pain 2010-12-03T14:33:30 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-12-03T15:33:54 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933975334 (Create Getting Started for your Peers) 2010-12-03T16:04:22 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T16:34:46 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T17:01:30 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-12-03T17:05:13 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T17:35:57 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T18:07:22 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T18:09:51 *** Holycry has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T18:25:24 Anyone a little more familiar with Bourne Script code then I am? I have a syntax error and I've been trying to fix it 2010-12-03T18:29:36 Ha nevermind finally got it =) 2010-12-03T18:38:18 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T19:08:47 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T19:09:37 So is there anyway I can contact Joel Sherrill> 2010-12-03T19:13:35 "Dr" 2010-12-03T19:35:01 *** Holycry has quit IRC 2010-12-03T19:38:17 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T20:03:25 *** Holycry has joined #rtems 2010-12-03T20:03:54 *** Holycry has quit IRC 2010-12-03T20:08:30 ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/rtems/t128933972396 (Complete POSIX Signal Manager Chapter) 2010-12-03T20:38:18 *** Holycry has joined 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