2010-10-04T00:32:38 *** methril has quit IRC 2010-10-04T00:45:17 *** methril has joined #rtems 2010-10-04T00:55:17 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2010-10-04T00:55:29 good morning 2010-10-04T01:00:56 *** kuzew has quit IRC 2010-10-04T02:41:50 morning people ... 2010-10-04T02:42:08 is the rtems-4.11 toolset safe ? i've been using the 4.10 toolset thus far 2010-10-04T02:42:25 im trying to use it on an ubuntu system now 2010-10-04T02:42:46 but I see from the ftp on rtems that all the rpms are 4.11 2010-10-04T02:43:02 im going through the changelogs etc... 2010-10-04T02:43:25 any major changes that is not well defined in the changelog that I should know about? 2010-10-04T02:43:31 little bit lazy here! :P 2010-10-04T03:11:56 the gcc version changed from 4.4.4 to 4.5.1 2010-10-04T03:22:35 thanx sebhub 2010-10-04T03:23:10 doesn't matter then... if that was the major change. 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2010-10-06T01:01:48 i used 4.10 since last year 2010-10-06T01:02:05 and as far as I can see the changes between 4.10 -> 4.11 toolset is minimal 2010-10-06T01:02:40 but i wanted to install it on ubuntu, rtems, and since the rpms that is needed to install it is 4.11? 2010-10-06T01:03:15 just simple queastions, i want to keep work down to the simplest and easy to reproduce for us, and not loose/fix code that works 2010-10-06T01:03:18 :) 2010-10-06T04:47:04 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-10-06T04:55:33 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2010-10-06T05:54:41 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T06:00:44 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-10-06T06:11:25 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T06:28:41 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T06:39:16 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T07:12:52 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-10-06T08:04:27 *** methril_work has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T09:55:46 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-06T10:45:30 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T11:13:47 *** madrazr has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T11:38:17 *** madrazr has left #rtems 2010-10-06T14:19:20 *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC 2010-10-06T16:33:38 *** mikeg has quit IRC 2010-10-06T16:34:28 *** mikeg has joined #rtems 2010-10-06T17:44:03 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-06T20:17:25 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2010-10-06T20:22:06 *** kristianpaul has left #rtems 2010-10-06T23:38:34 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T00:12:48 morning 2010-10-07T00:13:09 is there an ubuntu repo for rtems, as is for debian? 2010-10-07T00:21:48 im following this instruction set http://www.rtems.com/wiki/index.php/RTEMS_Development_Hosts for debian based install 2010-10-07T00:21:57 but get error missing libc.so.6 2010-10-07T00:35:28 nevermind... lol fixed 2010-10-07T01:02:27 sorry for all the questions, but I cant seem to get alien -d rtems-4.10 autoconf and automake to generate a deb package 2010-10-07T01:02:29 error 2010-10-07T01:02:37 chown: cannot access `rtems-4.11-autoconf-2.68//opt/rtems-4.11/share/info/dir': No such file or directory 2010-10-07T01:02:38 failed chowning /opt/rtems-4.11/share/info/dir to 0:0: Illegal seek at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package/Rpm.pm line 265, line 59. 2010-10-07T01:02:43 anyone any ideas 2010-10-07T01:02:50 rather important 2010-10-07T01:11:04 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2010-10-07T01:51:03 what rtems package produces the dir /opt/rtems-4.10/make with the custom pc386.cfg file? 2010-10-07T02:01:14 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T02:09:27 hi sebhub 2010-10-07T02:09:54 do you know what rpm package puts pc386.cfg file in /opt/rtems-4.10/make/custom/pc386.cfg? 2010-10-07T02:16:00 *** antgreen has quit IRC 2010-10-07T02:16:18 good morning 2010-10-07T02:16:41 this is part of a bsp and should be in no rpm 2010-10-07T02:18:25 rpm -qf /opt/rtems-4.10/make/custom/pc386.cfg 2010-10-07T02:18:32 in doubt 2010-10-07T02:27:25 *** mikeg has quit IRC 2010-10-07T02:31:10 *** mikeg has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T02:31:57 thanx 2010-10-07T02:31:59 also 2010-10-07T02:32:11 i got the new cvs head 2010-10-07T02:32:26 and i follow/test it with http://www.rtems.com/wiki/index.php/Example_Application_Compiling 2010-10-07T02:32:34 but i get this error 2010-10-07T02:32:42 make[4]: Entering directory `/opt/rtems/pc386/i386-rtems4.10/c/pc386/testsuites/samples' 2010-10-07T02:32:45 make[4]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. 2010-10-07T02:32:52 am i doing anything wrong? 2010-10-07T02:35:22 and the bsp build was ok? 2010-10-07T02:35:49 maybe your autoconf/automake version is not appropriate for the bootstrap 2010-10-07T02:36:10 i've got autoconf 2.65 2010-10-07T02:36:17 and automake 1.11 2010-10-07T02:36:29 im trying to install rtems on ubuntu 2010-10-07T02:36:36 karmi 2010-10-07T02:37:52 you need autoconf 2.67, watch the bootstrap output 2010-10-07T02:38:58 and automake? 2010-10-07T02:39:15 the latest 2010-10-07T02:39:35 you should use the 4.11 tool chain for the cvs head it contains the right autotools 2010-10-07T02:39:48 also, we are wondering if toolset 4.10 would be a good idea with cvs head? 2010-10-07T02:39:53 lol 2010-10-07T02:40:11 we have local repo that only contains 4.10 2010-10-07T02:40:19 but its cool 2010-10-07T02:40:26 understand 2010-10-07T02:40:40 wanted to see if it was possible to do it this way! 2010-10-07T02:40:59 probably never a good idea to mix the cvs checkout with the wrong toolset 2010-10-07T02:41:46 yes, this can lead to inconsistencies which are not obvious 2010-10-07T02:43:02 its rather slow for us to download the latest 4.11 toolset 2010-10-07T02:43:12 it actually takes days 2010-10-07T02:43:18 which was why I was attempting this 2010-10-07T02:43:27 oh, do you have a slow internet connection? 2010-10-07T02:43:32 yip 2010-10-07T02:43:37 less than 1 mb/s 2010-10-07T02:43:40 :( 2010-10-07T02:44:09 our lab is in the middle of nowhere 2010-10-07T02:44:14 hence the problem! 2010-10-07T02:44:35 our mrepo is at 4.10 2010-10-07T02:44:50 which is ok 2010-10-07T02:45:00 where is your lab? 2010-10-07T02:45:13 warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SNACC 2010-10-07T02:45:24 that is from ./bootstrap 2010-10-07T02:45:31 only error from aclocal 2010-10-07T02:45:35 south africa 2010-10-07T02:45:46 cape town to be exact 2010-10-07T02:46:17 ah, my brother worked in south africa for a year 2010-10-07T02:46:56 i ignored all the underquoted definition warnings, do you have a real error somewhere? 2010-10-07T02:52:51 nope bootstrap completes fine 2010-10-07T02:53:37 i'll continue trying... 2010-10-07T02:54:19 i've been having a bad week, finding major bugs everywhere, silver lining is that its not in my code,hehe 2010-10-07T02:56:09 out of curiosity for which application do you use rtems? 2010-10-07T02:56:37 uhm as a vxworks substitute 2010-10-07T02:56:47 we find that rtems is better suited for our work 2010-10-07T02:56:57 which is data aquisition 2010-10-07T02:57:47 I've ported a daq suite called midas to rtems 2010-10-07T02:58:21 i can then compile various frontends, little web servers etc for users to use to interact with vme controllers or other hardware 2010-10-07T02:58:29 simple stuff like that 2010-10-07T02:58:31 nothing major 2010-10-07T02:59:15 but we switch between linux and rtems 2010-10-07T02:59:39 at the moment we are stuck with linux, because rtems does not yet have multi-proc support for i386 2010-10-07T03:00:10 what do you mean with multi-proc support? 2010-10-07T03:00:15 I wanted to start work on that myself, as joel suggested there was a bases for it in the pc386 bsp, or somethign like that, if i remember correctly 2010-10-07T03:00:24 not multi-tasking 2010-10-07T03:00:35 having rtems run on a dual-core board 2010-10-07T03:00:49 apparently this is not in pc386, AFAIK 2010-10-07T03:02:05 there is a long way for rtems to be smp capable 2010-10-07T03:02:26 one application im working on and that works under linux, is a application that needs 1 core dedicated to just 1 thread and the other core is then free to be used for other stuff 2010-10-07T03:02:35 yip 2010-10-07T03:02:40 *** mikeg has quit IRC 2010-10-07T03:03:22 but we use rtems still for stuff that doesn't require that type of use 2010-10-07T03:05:31 what do you use rtems for if you dont mind me asking? 2010-10-07T03:06:19 also data aquisition, industrial control units, medical devices, fire protection systems 2010-10-07T03:07:21 def a problem with mixing cvs head and 4.10 toolset 2010-10-07T03:07:35 ive got it working now on ubuntu with cvs 4.10 checkout 2010-10-07T03:07:39 thanx for the help 2010-10-07T03:14:10 no problem 2010-10-07T03:14:28 *** mikeg has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T03:18:53 *** mikeg has quit IRC 2010-10-07T03:25:12 *** mikeg has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T05:54:39 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T06:03:57 *** antgreen_ has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T06:15:06 *** antgreen has left #rtems 2010-10-07T07:33:23 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T08:56:23 *** madrazr has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T09:50:55 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-07T10:45:26 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2010-10-07T10:53:35 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T13:02:17 *** antgreen has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T13:40:16 *** Alison_Chaiken has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T14:52:04 *** methril_ has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T15:08:13 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-10-07T15:08:14 *** lcpfnvc has quit IRC 2010-10-07T15:09:22 *** lcpfnvc has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T16:04:00 *** methril_ is now known as methril_work 2010-10-07T17:27:14 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2010-10-07T17:52:06 *** mikeg has left #rtems 2010-10-07T18:18:14 *** projectgus is now known as __project_gus__ 2010-10-07T18:18:28 *** __project_gus__ is now known as projectgus 2010-10-07T19:02:59 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-07T19:35:05 *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC 2010-10-08T00:32:38 *** methril has quit IRC 2010-10-08T00:45:17 *** methril has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T01:19:36 *** projectgus has quit IRC 2010-10-08T02:13:52 *** sebhub has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T02:20:23 good morning 2010-10-08T08:19:48 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T09:52:19 *** lcpfnvc has quit IRC 2010-10-08T09:55:34 *** lcpfnvc has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T10:07:18 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-08T10:32:32 *** madrazr has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T10:46:56 *** sebhub has quit IRC 2010-10-08T11:23:43 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T11:59:05 *** madrazr has left #rtems 2010-10-08T13:08:44 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-08T13:10:16 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T15:37:38 *** methril has quit IRC 2010-10-08T15:38:06 *** methril has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T16:40:14 *** methril_work has quit IRC 2010-10-08T20:00:39 *** dr__house has joined #rtems 2010-10-08T21:20:17 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-09T01:43:08 *** dr__house has quit IRC 2010-10-09T10:42:34 *** madrazr1 has joined #rtems 2010-10-09T10:43:09 *** madrazr1 is now known as madrazr 2010-10-09T10:43:16 *** madrazr has joined #rtems 2010-10-09T10:48:17 *** madrazr has quit IRC 2010-10-09T12:00:57 *** gedare has joined #rtems 2010-10-09T17:41:44 *** gedare has quit IRC 2010-10-10T00:33:16 *** methril has quit IRC 2010-10-10T00:45:22 *** methril has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T06:33:06 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T08:13:53 *** kuzew has quit IRC 2010-10-10T08:15:10 *** kuzew has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T08:33:47 *** madrazr has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T10:05:07 *** madrazr has left #rtems 2010-10-10T10:08:10 *** madrazr has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T10:08:29 *** madrazr has left #rtems 2010-10-10T11:04:18 *** kuzew has quit IRC 2010-10-10T11:05:57 *** kuzew has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T11:49:53 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-10T11:50:02 *** exception13 has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T17:20:47 *** Alison_Chaiken has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T17:22:01 *** projectgus has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T19:02:12 *** exception13 has left #rtems 2010-10-10T19:43:22 *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC 2010-10-10T20:09:31 *** antgreen_ has quit IRC 2010-10-10T20:51:02 *** Alison_Chaiken has joined #rtems 2010-10-10T22:28:26 *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC